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Re: Dalle-3 Examples

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Post by lawlessone »

elaus wrote: post #29
littlestymaar wrote: post #17

The “cute white tiger cub smiling, with tail, sticker, transparent background” is pretty funny: the background isn't actually transparent, but it instead (imperfectly) reproduces the grey-and-white tiling that is usually displayed by image viewers when opening transparent backgrounds.

I wonder if this is significantly influenced by the images you find when doing an image search for " transparent". A lot of sketchy clip-art sites insert the checkered background, probably to both symbolize transparency and also to prevent people from just right-clicking "Save as...". You want the user to search the download button on a page full of ads and fake buttons after all...

Can just upload it into an AI background remover.

Re: Dalle-3 Examples

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Post by djur »

cush wrote: post #24

If copyright law doesn’t take a massive leap forward in the next year, AI is going throw a wrench in our entire economy. The creative humans that trained these models deserve attribution, compensation, and royalties. The ongoing AI era is reminding me a lot of early Uber/AirBnB - these companies grew faster than local laws could keep up, and now we have millions of gig workers without insurance and housing crises in…

Copyright law isn't going to matter here. There are already models trained solely on owned or licensed content and there is more than enough funding to produce more. The big businesses dumping billions of dollars into AI have zero interest in producing counterfeit Calvin and Hobbes strips.

I don't know that I personally know how we get to the ideal outcome here, but I see a lot of ways in which a copyright crackdown will have unexpected ramifications (accidentally banning search indexes, etc.) and consolidate power in the emerging market even further into the hands of extremely well-funded incumbents.

Re: Dalle-3 Examples

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Post by 6510 »

cush wrote: post #24

If copyright law doesn’t take a massive leap forward in the next year, AI is going throw a wrench in our entire economy. The creative humans that trained these models deserve attribution, compensation, and royalties. The ongoing AI era is reminding me a lot of early Uber/AirBnB - these companies grew faster than local laws could keep up, and now we have millions of gig workers without insurance and housing crises in…

> The creative humans that trained these models deserve attribution, compensation, and royalties.

I would much rather give them nothing. They can participate in the system where we work for a living. Do useful things. People think everything is valuable. The Romans, in the end thought only the circus was important. Turns out you cant wear circus, you cant eat it, the circus makes non of the things we need.

If you could chose what to spend the worlds attention on. Would you pick the circus?

People will continue making things regardless, for fun and contract work.

I know it is the norm but I don't want all 5000 possible variations of the letter E owned by someone.

Trademarks we can keep, those are actually useful.

Re: Dalle-3 Examples

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Post by ShrigmaMale »

mucle6 wrote: post #21

My prediction: Either these models will have to expose some editable intermediate step, or they have to become as smart as a human. From the users point of view, a sentence is turned into an image. But there is an underlying structure to the pixels that we aren't allowed to tinker with. Many choices are made like, placement, color pallete, level of detail, emotion evoked, or sub image descriptions (What should this b…

as mentioned controlnet and inpainting help. my guess is img2img will improve to fill this edit step.

Re: Dalle-3 Examples

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Post by ShrigmaMale »

cush wrote: post #24

If copyright law doesn’t take a massive leap forward in the next year, AI is going throw a wrench in our entire economy. The creative humans that trained these models deserve attribution, compensation, and royalties. The ongoing AI era is reminding me a lot of early Uber/AirBnB - these companies grew faster than local laws could keep up, and now we have millions of gig workers without insurance and housing crises in…

can you explain why you think obsoleting the majority of commercial artists will "throw a wrench in our entire economy"? since you're addressing copyright law i'm assuming that's all you're addressing. this sounds like a very small number of people. for the economy as a whole, bringing down the cost of art is probably a positive.

i understand the arguments about artistic value, but those are quite separate from yours.

Re: Dalle-3 Examples

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

mucle6 wrote: post #21

My prediction: Either these models will have to expose some editable intermediate step, or they have to become as smart as a human. From the users point of view, a sentence is turned into an image. But there is an underlying structure to the pixels that we aren't allowed to tinker with. Many choices are made like, placement, color pallete, level of detail, emotion evoked, or sub image descriptions (What should this b…

From what I understand about DALL-E 3 is that it integrates with ChatGPT so you can ask it to change the image with simple language.

So if you generated, say, a picture that ended up including a bush, you could ask it to change it from a boxwood to a rose bush, and it could do it.

As it is, MidJourney already has the the ability for you to select an area of a generated image and make it regenerate it. You can even change the prompt, though it won't always do what you think.

I think a lot of the challenges you're describing won't apply to DALL-E 3's ChatGPT integration.

Re: Dalle-3 Examples

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

logicchains wrote: post #13

>Some key advantages of DALL-E 3: ... >Creative Freedom – Ability to generate any theme, style or subject matter with impressive coherence. No restrictive content moderation. Did they remove censorship from this one? My understanding is that the previous versions were heavily censored.

I would be really surprised if they really mean "No restrictive content moderation".

That's how you earn the reputation for producing CSAM.

Re: Dalle-3 Examples

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Post by datameta »

politelemon wrote: post #6
datameta wrote: post #3

As a stable diffusion user this is impressive. But with the SD practice under my belt I still prefer local AI solutions for privacy reasons.

What I like about Stable Diffusion is the tooling that's being developed around it. There is a "Comfy UI" which I've found to be too difficult, but there is one by Automatic1111 which is very accessible to me (the masses). That gives it a lot of potential in terms of ideas and what can be achieved. ControlNet adds a whole dimension to the generation process. I am not familiar but is there something similar to Control…

Easydiffusion is what I use. I jumped in way past when it was just a CLI. https://easydiffusion.github.io/

Re: Dalle-3 Examples

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Post by cush »

ShrigmaMale wrote: post #35
cush wrote: post #24

If copyright law doesn’t take a massive leap forward in the next year, AI is going throw a wrench in our entire economy. The creative humans that trained these models deserve attribution, compensation, and royalties. The ongoing AI era is reminding me a lot of early Uber/AirBnB - these companies grew faster than local laws could keep up, and now we have millions of gig workers without insurance and housing crises in…

can you explain why you think obsoleting the majority of commercial artists will "throw a wrench in our entire economy"? since you're addressing copyright law i'm assuming that's all you're addressing. this sounds like a very small number of people. for the economy as a whole, bringing down the cost of art is probably a positive. i understand the arguments about artistic value, but those are quite separate from yours…

> artists… a small number of people

The vast majority of artists are working professionals doing the art grunt work, so it’s many more than you’d think (Millions) - not just those working for film/media/galleries. That said, these models won’t only replace artists. They can be trained to do most anything - jobs in marketing, legal, journalism, healthcare, software, etc are all at risk

Re: Dalle-3 Examples

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Post by cush »

djur wrote: post #32
cush wrote: post #24

If copyright law doesn’t take a massive leap forward in the next year, AI is going throw a wrench in our entire economy. The creative humans that trained these models deserve attribution, compensation, and royalties. The ongoing AI era is reminding me a lot of early Uber/AirBnB - these companies grew faster than local laws could keep up, and now we have millions of gig workers without insurance and housing crises in…

Copyright law isn't going to matter here. There are already models trained solely on owned or licensed content and there is more than enough funding to produce more. The big businesses dumping billions of dollars into AI have zero interest in producing counterfeit Calvin and Hobbes strips. I don't know that I personally know how we get to the ideal outcome here, but I see a lot of ways in which a copyright crackdown…

> The big businesses … have zero interest in producing counterfeit Calvin and Hobbes strips

Agree. I’m not suggesting creative authors are attributed and receive royalties based on work generated in their style. I’m suggesting they get compensated for work generated from their training data - based on model weights.

People need to get paid. Again, this is Uber/AirBnB all over again except it applies to literally every industry.

Coincidentally, Business Insider wrote about this topic just a few hours ago. https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-jaron-lanier-ai-ad...

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