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Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It

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Re: Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It

#281
Two collegial conduct nits on this piece (one from company and/or team perspective, and one from fellow-human/colleague perspective):

> It’s perfectly okay to pretend to comply to buy time while you line up a new gig somewhere else.

The context of this was the writer receiving an ultimatum, and perhaps feeling that the employer was being abusive, so maybe it was OK then.

But I'd hope people don't take that assertion of "it's perfectly okay to pretend to comply" as blanket advice.

For example, imagine a team that, although some coked-up CEO did something obnoxious, the team believed the key teammate who said they were relocating. Then later the team learns the person was lying to them, which they relied upon, so they were left in a bad spot that could've been avoided.

> Many of them admitted that they were actively looking for new roles; some of them for the first time in over a decade. Many of them already have new gigs lined up, and were preparing to resign too. Some of those already have.

OPSEC. You can act in good faith with your employer and not loose-lips-sink-ships your colleagues on their own delicate situations.

Maybe better trust among colleagues on delicate things like this would've helped avoid the other problem: there would be less motivation to "pretend", if the person could trust their colleagues not to rat them out when they don't say anything rather than lie, or when they even hint at their plans.

Re: Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It

#282

The discussion here tends to ignore the posts about people working multiple jobs or not working 40 hours a week remotely. Can't have your cake and eat it too

Corporations do everything in their power, including illegal things to maximize profits. Why can't an individual do what's best for them?

Re: Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It

#283

There are so many “habits” left over from industrial work. On an assembly line everyone needed to be in sync but this generally isn’t true for most office work. You need to be present at the factory to do the work, hasn’t been true for office work for awhile now. Yet we still operate synchronously. Everyone commutes through traffic/crowded public transport and risk catching the latest novel virus, to arrive at work a…

Walking over and talking to someone is still far superior to any online communication. So unless you have a job that requires minimal communication on a day-to-day basis, an office is superior for productivity. Perhaps if everyone working from home were constantly available to screen-share/video chat it wouldn't be as bad, but my experience with WFH is people get distracted by kids/pets/etc and half the time I wait h…

> Walking over and talking to someone is still far superior to any online communication.

This is an example of a local maximum. This form of communication is better for the person doing the walking, but worse when looked at through most other frames:

- worse for the person being asked, who was interrupted

- worse for the people who weren't privy to that conversation but perhaps could have learned or contributed except that they were OOO that moment.

- worse for the organization because knowledge shared this way is ephemeral & siloed by definition

- ineffective in large organizations, where teams often span offices

And all that's before considering the "worse" that comes from having your staff spend 5 hours a week (average in the US) commuting to the office.

In effect, the person walking over is burdening the other party and the organization rather than spend a little more time to craft a question in writing. Weak written communication skills are at the root of why so many organizations are bad at remote work. If oral communications is all that works at your org, then remote is going to be really tough for you (and your inter-office communication is also probably terrible and you should put the whole company in a single building).

Re: Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It

#284
These kind of blogs do not help remote work argument, it is polarising the discussion. Especially when the advice is to sabotage the company while drawing your own plan. BTW, I completely understand remote workers and I have no issues with the remotes in my team.

Take the argument of working in a cheaper state or country. These kind of perks that only IT people have, can easily turn into envy with the majority of the other workers who do not have this. They may need to commute hours every day and still need to pay grand villa rent for a basement room.

Re: Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It

#285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prior to COVID, everyone understood that remote work was supported by some companies and not others. It was also a type of work that was preferred by some employees and not others. As a result, everyone peacefully self-selected into their preferred employment relationships. Companies got the type of workforce they wanted and workers chose the type of environment they wanted. It was great. Today, as some companies are…

Before COVID there were a ton of people who wanted to work remotely but couldn't because remote jobs were few and far between. COVID finally gave them what they always wanted, but now it's being taken away, and remote jobs are getting harder to find again. That's why there is resentment. There was resentment before too, but it was more below the radar because it was always shot down with "we work better in person" an…

>Before COVID there were a ton of people who wanted to work remotely but couldn't

And then there's all the people that didn't know they wanted to work remotely, until they were forced to experience it.

Re: Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It

#286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chat’s my favorite. Leaves a record so you don’t have to take notes or immediately record whatever you talked about so you don’t forget. Screen sharing or pairing are better remote than in person. In person’s good for a subset of types of meetings that some folks may find themselves in a lot. Brainstorming, product ideation, that kind of thing. > In the office I just walk over to their desk. This is from the perspect…

You seem to have missed my point that all of those options require someone to actually be at their workstation and available. With WFH, half the time people aren't. In the office they are. If WFH is going to be the future, then there should be uptime requirements with associated penalties so that someone is as available as they would be in the office. Software development is a team sport, you don't get to walk off th…

Surely you’re capable of scheduling a meeting if you need to talk to someone or share a screen. Scheduling a meeting is far preferable to interrupting someone who is busy, in the office or not.

Re: Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It

#287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chat’s my favorite. Leaves a record so you don’t have to take notes or immediately record whatever you talked about so you don’t forget. Screen sharing or pairing are better remote than in person. In person’s good for a subset of types of meetings that some folks may find themselves in a lot. Brainstorming, product ideation, that kind of thing. > In the office I just walk over to their desk. This is from the perspect…

You seem to have missed my point that all of those options require someone to actually be at their workstation and available. With WFH, half the time people aren't. In the office they are. If WFH is going to be the future, then there should be uptime requirements with associated penalties so that someone is as available as they would be in the office. Software development is a team sport, you don't get to walk off th…

If the company needs you, you get to do it your way.

Also, software dev doesn't actually need a team, and, as the "key players" tend to go WFH more and more, the teams become worse and worse value.

This ends with the decline of "team managers" and "filler players".

Re: Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't speak for myself (I mostly enjoy remote), but I've had team members who had 3 kids of varying ages, on a single income, and simply didn't have the space/opportunity to focus. They were VERY stressed out, and while they voiced a strong preference to work in an office (no longer an option for us), they ultimately choose to move out of our state (Cali) for much more affordable space to solve the problem. From my…

That doesn't make sense to me, what are they doing with their kids if they worked in an office, and why aren't they just doing that?

For young children (that is, before entering school), children are often at home all day being cared for either by a parent or a nanny. If you don't have a separate area to work, it can be really difficult to explain to your kids that Mommy or Daddy can't play because they need to stare at a screen for hours.

Re: Return to Office Is Bullshit and Everyone Knows It

#290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prior to COVID, everyone understood that remote work was supported by some companies and not others. It was also a type of work that was preferred by some employees and not others. As a result, everyone peacefully self-selected into their preferred employment relationships. Companies got the type of workforce they wanted and workers chose the type of environment they wanted. It was great. Today, as some companies are…

>We should just return to the status quo before COVID The status quo was horribly broken, and it took a worldwide pandemic for many people to realize that things could be different and didn't have to be so awful.

Pre-Covid COL would be great too.
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