Burnout is caused by resentment • Hacker News Board

Re: Burnout is caused by resentment

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Post by joezydeco » Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 5:20 PM UTC

tensor wrote: post #48

kamaal wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing would happen. I don't know from where this started. But I am expected to make for somebody Else's lapses all the times. This is called in classic management language 'Team work'. And the managers don't pay you for doing 'Team work' , at best you are assumed to just doing your duty. So you are not supposed to get paid extra. I know a lot of managers who consider people who ask rewards for extra/free/innovation…

I took the comment about bosses not taking home a paycheck to be referring to a startup scenario where funding is tight and so the founders don't take home a salary while the first few employees do. In that situation it's not at all uncommon to trade some wage for equity, but there are not many cases that I've heard of, outside of the founders themselves, that are so extreme that people literally take home only equit…

It's about the startup scenario, because I'm living it.

I'm an early hire and took a pay cut in return for a tiny amount of equity. CEO is in fully and is taking home a very small salary. So every request for a raise is augmented with "well, I'm not making as much as you are".

You can only hear that so many times before the resumes go out.

Re: Burnout is caused by resentment

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Post by mmcconnell1618 » Fri, Mar 30, 2012, 12:50 AM UTC

gnosis wrote: post #65

mmcconnell1618 wrote: post #14

I find that wasting my time is a larger annoyance than monetary compensation. As I get older I have less tolerance for meaningless meetings and the requirement to work specific hours or be in a physical office for a client just because it makes a manager feel better.

If you call being sick of meetings and having to come in at specific times "burnout", you have a very mild case of it. Burnout started for me when I noticed that my interests weren't aligned with my company's interests.. or with any company's interests.. or even with my profession's interests. Coding became boring. So I switched to doing sysadmin. Then sysadmin stuff became boring. Then technology in general became b…

I'm not saying that being annoyed at meeting == burnout. I'm saying that it is a contributing factor just like resentment over unequal compensation, etc.

Re: Burnout is caused by resentment

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Post by gnosis » Fri, Mar 30, 2012, 2:32 PM UTC

mmcconnell1618 wrote: post #72

gnosis wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you call being sick of meetings and having to come in at specific times "burnout", you have a very mild case of it. Burnout started for me when I noticed that my interests weren't aligned with my company's interests.. or with any company's interests.. or even with my profession's interests. Coding became boring. So I switched to doing sysadmin. Then sysadmin stuff became boring. Then technology in general became b…

I'm not saying that being annoyed at meeting == burnout. I'm saying that it is a contributing factor just like resentment over unequal compensation, etc.

Sure. It all comes down to having a job you don't want to do, for one reason or another, but are nevertheless doing.

The more you don't want to do that job, the less you want to be there, and the longer you stay anyway, the more burnt out you'll be.

Many factors can contribute to this, including relationships you have with the people at the company, your feelings towards them, your job, and the company, and how you feel you and others at the company are treated.