Subsidies Awarded to Tesla Inc: at least $2,829,855,494 and Counting
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Subsidies Awarded to Tesla Inc: at least $2,829,855,494 and Counting
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Re: Subsidies Awarded to Tesla Inc: at least $2,829,855,494 and Counting
#2This is the more interesting page of that website imo.
https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/megadeals
Shows the companies that receive subsidies and how much. I will note that Tesla isn't close to being the largest recipient of subsidies but recieves by far the most outrage.
Re: Subsidies Awarded to Tesla Inc: at least $2,829,855,494 and Counting
#3What’s the point of the page if the information is incomplete ? For example the number about the 466 million federal loan I believe does not include the fact that it was paid back with interest (so taxpayers made money on that).
Re: Subsidies Awarded to Tesla Inc: at least $2,829,855,494 and Counting
#4This is the more interesting page of that website imo. https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/megadeals Shows the companies that receive subsidies and how much. I will note that Tesla isn't close to being the largest recipient of subsidies but recieves by far the most outrage.
Somehow Boeing getting billions is not sexy enough to discuss on the internet, unless we can fit in “Musk” in the headline in some way.
Re: Subsidies Awarded to Tesla Inc: at least $2,829,855,494 and Counting
#5This is the more interesting page of that website imo. https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/megadeals Shows the companies that receive subsidies and how much. I will note that Tesla isn't close to being the largest recipient of subsidies but recieves by far the most outrage.
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Re: Subsidies Awarded to Tesla Inc: at least $2,829,855,494 and Counting
#6Also: Boeing 15 billion dollars, amazon 11b, intel 8b, ford 7.7b, foxconn 4.8b, etc.
This organised propaganda against Tesla needs to stop, sure Musk is an a*hole, is he an evil a*hole like some othe CEOs? I don't know...
Electric cars are still something beneficial to the sustainability of the car industry and the environment. And Ford still got more money...
Foxconn uses slaves to make a luxury device that's marketed as environmentaly friendly because it now uses the same cable forced on it by the EU that others used for a decade... and it got more than Tesla.
Amazon is just an online store and cloud provider, and the way it treats its low level workers is as close to slavery as the law permits it to be, and it still got more etc.
I mean you can get away with a post like this on Reddit but you should at least expect HN to have people will enough critical thinking skills to see what your title is suggesting and why what it's suggesting is both wrong when put into context and also politically pushed with how much we see it repeated online.
Re: Subsidies Awarded to Tesla Inc: at least $2,829,855,494 and Counting
#7What’s the point of the page if the information is incomplete ? For example the number about the 466 million federal loan I believe does not include the fact that it was paid back with interest (so taxpayers made money on that).
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Re: Subsidies Awarded to Tesla Inc: at least $2,829,855,494 and Counting
#8What’s the point of the page if the information is incomplete ? For example the number about the 466 million federal loan I believe does not include the fact that it was paid back with interest (so taxpayers made money on that).
I guess the point is listing the public loans and grants awarded to a businessman who happens to be trying to influence the government?
Can be useful in many ways, for example can be a talking point about the wonders of having a federal government. Can be useful for having a context when a businessmen campaigns against taxes and subsidies. Can be used against certain businessmen claiming they did everything by themselves, unlike those unsuccessful poor people or lazy immigrants.
It's something interesting to keep in mind when demanding drastic changes on how the world should work.
Re: Subsidies Awarded to Tesla Inc: at least $2,829,855,494 and Counting
#9Also: Boeing 15 billion dollars, amazon 11b, intel 8b, ford 7.7b, foxconn 4.8b, etc. This organised propaganda against Tesla needs to stop, sure Musk is an a*hole, is he an evil a*hole like some othe CEOs? I don't know... Electric cars are still something beneficial to the sustainability of the car industry and the environment. And Ford still got more money... Foxconn uses slaves to make a luxury device that's market…
> Amazon is just an online store and cloud provider, and the way it treats its low level workers is as close to slavery as the law permits it to be
I like your call for reason, but I think your Amazon statement is hyperbole. I’m weaning myself off Amazon, but Amazon employees aren’t anywhere close to slavery. It’s a hard job, but seems to compare really well to other competing warehouse or delivery or whatever jobs.
I feel like making inaccurate statements detracts from the core of our discussion, why is Amazon getting billions in subsidies?
I also think that these subsidies need to have a rate aspect. If a trillion dollar company gets $5B in subsidies that’s very different from a $5B company getting the same. Huge corps are huge and just by existing they are probably maximizing random subsidies so the complaint isn’t against the org, but against the governments that give them.
Re: Subsidies Awarded to Tesla Inc: at least $2,829,855,494 and Counting
#10What’s the point of the page if the information is incomplete ? For example the number about the 466 million federal loan I believe does not include the fact that it was paid back with interest (so taxpayers made money on that).
I guess the point is listing the public loans and grants awarded to a businessman who happens to be trying to influence the government? Can be useful in many ways, for example can be a talking point about the wonders of having a federal government. Can be useful for having a context when a businessmen campaigns against taxes and subsidies. Can be used against certain businessmen claiming they did everything by themse…
A business man, trying to influence government?? You don't say.
In all seriousness, the argument that one benefits from the current system but advocates for a different system is not acceptable is just wrong. We can't all be living in a cabin in the woods. We're allowed to have opinions