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Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Post by GuB-42 »

raulo wrote: post #67

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To be fair, I would be more comfortable with Russian open source software that I can run locally over proprietary software from the US or Europe that run on someone else's servers.

> We would like to host ONLYOFFICE ourselves. Is that possible?

> Yes. It is possible to download and compile the source code. Thereafter you can deploy it on your own server. The source code is listed on GitHub and distributed under GNU Affero General Public License terms. For more details see the Server Version Frequently Asked Questions section.

You don't have that with Google Docs or Office 365.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Post by gitanovic »

sgt wrote: post #86
ihypopocrite wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not more than or less than using American or Israeli products.

Comparing America to a nation engaging in an invasion is a bit far fetched. Not saying the US has a clean sheet but it's still a land of freedom.

Yeah, right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Post by mardifoufs »

actionfromafar wrote: post #182
malermeister wrote: post #169

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I'm literally answering a comment claiming the US has never done anything of the like. It's not whataboutism to bring up a counterexample in this case and calling it such is nothing less than jingoist propaganda.

Any military force will have such incidents. What separates them is the extent they try to prevent and punish such things. The US is certainly not perfect, but there have been attempts to curb such behaviour. Meanwhile, a UN envoy collects extensive evidence that the torture and murder of Ukrainian (civilian and military) prisoners held by Russia is not only widespread, but shows clear signs of being coordinated in m…

Blatant imperialism apologia lol. You lose your entire credibility of being against an invader when you then downplay what the US did. I guess the one million deaths was fine since it was just an oopsie and the Americans didn't mean it.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Post by mardifoufs »

walteweiss wrote: post #113
deaddodo wrote: post #101

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When was the last time the US attacked a nation to annex them into their sovereignty? Not in some abstract or vague manner, directly annexing them. Not defending any of the US' wars, but it's a little disingenuous to compare them to the Ukrainian conflict.

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Yes and if you lived in Iraq you would probably have said the same. Whats your point? You are basically saying that it's worse because it's closer to you?

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Post by mardifoufs »

tm-guimaraes wrote: post #173
2Gkashmiri wrote: post #126

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when usa invaded afghanistan to "avenge 9/11" or iraq over false pretenses that became apparent to everyone but no one cares because "muh american exceptionalism", no one went about their way and "avoided american companies". what has a russian company have to do with the war? tomorrow if usa once again starts a war to decimate another country for petrodolalrs, will you go out of your way and start shunning your own…

2 major differences: - the Afghanistan invasion was an actual reaction to a direct attack, not a “you are close to joining an opponent alliance” - in the west people were free to criticize the invasion, while Russians have much to fear if they are anti-war. The first point is more moral, while both wars are ridiculous, they are different scale of ridiculous, but not important from business perspective. This is extrem…

When did Afghanistan attack the US? You realize that they did offer to extradite bin Ladin, right? Did Iraq attack the US too? Might as well believe made up Russian propaganda about the Donbass.

Also Who cares if the people in the west were free to criticize it? It didn't stop the war, and it has absolutely nothing to do with embargoes and boycotts. Absolutely no one in Iraq cares that Americans still had their free speech when they destroyed their country and set them back 30 years

Russia wouldn't suddenly be a fine member of the international community if their government wasn't censoring criticism of the war while still invading Ukraine.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Post by gitanovic »

benterix wrote: post #149
ihypopocrite wrote: post #81

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Not more than or less than using American or Israeli products.

I love it when every discussion about Putin's full-scale war in Ukraine gets derailed by "but the USA is doing the same". Suppose that the USA works in the same way, bombing and shelling civilians every day, torturing and raping women and children, launching massive attacks on power plants during winter to freeze the population to death, abducting children from their parents etc. Suppose all this was true. Would it g…

I love when a discussion about a software product derails about the war in Ukraine...

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Post by patrakov »

sogjis wrote: post #108
arghwhat wrote: post #103

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That post is out of date. As of August, it developed by a Latvian company ultimately owned by a Singaporean holding company (Onlyoffice Capital Group Pte. Ltd). The Russian market is served by a fork called P7-Office. I cannot say if there are still indirect ties to Russia, but the direct ones appear fully severed?

Beneficial is citizen of Russia https://company.lursoft.lv/en/ascensio-system/40103265308

Please do your own research and answer two simple questions below.

How much time (money no object) would it take for you personally to get any citizenship other than your current one?

How much time (assuming your current level of income) would it take for you personally to get any citizenship other than your current one?

I have done my research. The answer to the first question is 6 months (if advertisements on the black market are true), and the second one is between 5 and 10 years. So please don't blame people based solely on their citizenship.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Post by actionfromafar »

mardifoufs wrote: post #193
actionfromafar wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any military force will have such incidents. What separates them is the extent they try to prevent and punish such things. The US is certainly not perfect, but there have been attempts to curb such behaviour. Meanwhile, a UN envoy collects extensive evidence that the torture and murder of Ukrainian (civilian and military) prisoners held by Russia is not only widespread, but shows clear signs of being coordinated in m…

Blatant imperialism apologia lol. You lose your entire credibility of being against an invader when you then downplay what the US did. I guess the one million deaths was fine since it was just an oopsie and the Americans didn't mean it.

I don't downplay what the US did, in fact I frequently complain to anyone who will listen and some who won't how absoletely butchered the occupation of Iraq was and what huge ramifications it had. Paul Bremer is not a favourite of mine. I marched in protests against the invasion.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Post by siva7 »

farseer wrote: post #185
siva7 wrote: post #80

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They try hard to whitewash their affiliations to russia for potential customers while still not condemning the war. Jetbrains at least had the courage to do so even though state-owned institutions in germany are checking to cut their ties even with them. I would strictly advise against using their (OnlyOffice) products if you're in a country (eu, america) that participates in the sanctions against russia.

Condemning the war while being inside Russia poses grave risks to personal safety. Surely they are a software outfit, not noble heroic knights.

I don't know how i would have acted in their toes but i think i would still be held morally responsible if i just say that politics is none of my business because i'm the head of a software shop while my country is trying to annex a neighbour.
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