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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Invasions_by_the_Unit... It's an entire category.
Half of the articles in the category are WWII campaigns.
Which were invasions, your point being?
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As a sibling comment points out, the US has also done so, so what might matter here are the relative rates. And good luck finding those out through the chaos, propaganda and fog of war... We'll probably only have half decent numbers a decade from now, if that.
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when usa invaded afghanistan to "avenge 9/11" or iraq over false pretenses that became apparent to everyone but no one cares because "muh american exceptionalism", no one went about their way and "avoided american companies". what has a russian company have to do with the war? tomorrow if usa once again starts a war to decimate another country for petrodolalrs, will you go out of your way and start shunning your own…
2 major differences:
- the Afghanistan invasion was an actual reaction to a direct attack, not a “you are close to joining an opponent alliance”
- in the west people were free to criticize the invasion, while Russians have much to fear if they are anti-war.
The first point is more moral, while both wars are ridiculous, they are different scale of ridiculous, but not important from business perspective.
This is extremely important from a business perspective, as it shows the state heavy arm on its people and therefore its business. If it controls people’s speech, people’s business are under even more control.
So, as a business, you face a much bigger risk depending on some compony from a “controlling state”, then a more free state.
This doesn’t mean that USA/the west, doesn’t use it’s private companies, it’s just a difference on scale, and how easy/entrenched that control is.
Another example, is that many european PMs lost the next election cycle with major reason being supporting that war effort. Also, people were actually allowed to protest. Checkout how russian protests are handled.
Just like even today in eastern eurocountries there are some sons of ex wealthy soviets nicknamed “homo sovietis”, with their soviet themed bars, which are perfectly allowed today, but i wonder what would happened if during their youth they opened a “capitalist/ocidental” bar.
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a sibling comment points out, the US has also done so, so what might matter here are the relative rates. And good luck finding those out through the chaos, propaganda and fog of war... We'll probably only have half decent numbers a decade from now, if that.
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> Do you personally know anyone who was murdered by the U.S.? No? Well, I do know people that were murdered by Russians. For no ducking reason. Some of them were protecting their country from an aggressive invaders, others were just peacefully sleeping in their beds.
This is nothing but personal bias. An Iraqi could say the same thing, but with the roles swapped.
> I think this ‘U.S. is also bad’ take is irrelevant and inappropriate, especially in this very timeframe of ongoing war.
Again, that is your personal bias showing.
Two things can be bad at the same time. We can acknowledge that Russia is doing bad things in Ukraine and that the US is helping defend the country. That doesn't absolve the US from its sins committed elsewhere, however.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LasrD6SZkZk In all seriousness, America does not pull their weapon to prevent bad things from happening (or at least, not primarily). The US primarily works through Nato and the UN to intervene in their 'world police' role, but they are happy to start other conflicts without the support of Nato and the UN (see Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, ~~Korea~~). If the US were really the 'world pol…
> without the support of the UN... Korea The US involvement in the Korean War was organized under the nascent UN.[0] "During the course of the war, 22 nations contributed military or medical personnel to UN Command. Although the United States led the UNC and provided the bulk of its troops and funding, all participants formally fought under the auspices of the UN, with the operation classified as a 'UN-led police act…
Thanks for the correction—I was labouring under the impression that the US were in Korea independently.
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#176Anyone have a good comparison between this and LibreOffice?
OnlyOffice seems to be the only FOSS office suite that handles Microsoft Office documents correctly. When I open my Word docs in LibreOffice, they still look significantly different than in Word after all these years. In OnlyOffice they look exactly like in Word. So it replaced Word-in-Wine for me.
> When I open my Word docs in LibreOffice, they still look significantly different than in Word after all these years.
Huh, I've not had that issue with the documents I've worked with in the best part of a decade.
What is it that's different for you? Page layout, text wrapping/length, image support, table formatting? Something else?
What platform are you using, and if you're not on Windows do you have the equivalent-metric Liberation font families installed so that docs which rely on non-redistributable proprietary Microsoft fonts can be rendered properly?
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/09/08/libreoff...
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Half of the articles in the category are WWII campaigns.
Which were invasions, your point being?
They are part of a wider context of a war they did not initiate, often in occupied territories, fighting alongside the native People of said territories (eg. Siegfried Line campaign, Invasion of [German occupied] Elba, Allied invasion of [German occupied] Italy, [German occupied] Normandy landings, Operation Overlord, Battle of [German occupied] Marseille.)
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Jetbrains is Czech, not Russian.
Things get a bit more complicated when the founders are russian and had R&D offices in russia. To my knowledge they claimed to have cut all financial ties to russia and they also positioned themselves publicly against the war.
Watch out there are russian immigrants founding companies all over the place! Some of them have name Sergei.
USA is even trying to attract those russian kids on purpose! What a conspiracy.
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Things get a bit more complicated when the founders are russian and had R&D offices in russia. To my knowledge they claimed to have cut all financial ties to russia and they also positioned themselves publicly against the war.
Watch out there are russian immigrants founding companies all over the place! Some of them have name Sergei. USA is even trying to attract those russian kids on purpose! What a conspiracy.
The google founders are american citizens.
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#180I’m surprised ONLYOFFICE isn’t more popular in more distributions. It’s AGPL, open source, and almost infinitely more intuitive than LibreOffice to anyone coming from Microsoft Office.
> I’m surprised ONLYOFFICE isn’t more popular in more distributions.
There's an RFP/ITP (Request For Package/Intent To Package) issue for Debian filed in June 2020, but no evidence that any DDs have wanted to pick it up or start working on it. I guess LibreOffice works well enough for all of them that need it.
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=963070
> It's [...] more intuitive than LibreOffice to anyone coming from Microsoft Office.
I've just had a look at some of the OnlyOffice screenshots, and they mostly look like it has a Ribbon-style interface. It might be that Debian devs are mostly old-school enough that LibreOffice's classic menu and toolbars is more similar to the MS Office they used to use than a Ribbon.
That said, LibreOffice does have multiple User Interface variants (accessible from the "View" menu in the standard UI), including a "Tabbed" option that is Ribbon-like if that's more your thing. (And some others, but I've not explored them much.)