12,000-year-old realistic human statue was unearthed

Post by opportune » Mon, Oct 02, 2023, 6:41 AM UTC

mcmoor wrote: post #115

cjohnson318 wrote: post #82

I wonder how long ago our ancestors forgot about this settlement and it was lost, and how many times it was rediscovered through the ages. I bet Homer knew of or had heard of some ancient sites that were either never memorialized in a poem, or poems never survived to modern times.

Xenophon already writes about sites that are already old and forgotten by his time https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabasis_(Xenophon)

Post by justinclift » Mon, Oct 02, 2023, 6:51 AM UTC

tanepiper wrote: post #117

gumby wrote: post #71

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I don't think any other species has the set of facial muscles humans do. Cats seem inscrutable because they have very few; dogs seem more understandable because they can move their eyebrows. I think the non-human animal with the most facial expressions is the chimpanzee, but even then it is much less expressive than a human in this regard. Various mammals have (non-facial) macroexpression somewhat similar to humans,…

As someone who spends a lot of time closely with dogs, and recently raised a little of 6 spaniels - dogs "talk" via their facial expressions and can make sounds beyond just barks. My pet theory is that women bonded with dogs first through an ability to have a mutual understanding with non-verbal communication, and we most likely observed them and could "talk" to them in their own ways - something that has been lost a…

Post by jl6 » Mon, Oct 02, 2023, 7:09 AM UTC

bluehorizon2 wrote: post #102

It feels like the significance of this is lost on many people. My understanding is that complex things like statues were not supposed to be possible 12,000 years ago. I think it’s supposed to be more like 6000 years ago. The fact that it has been carbon dated to 12,000 tears should means that we have to rewrite the theories on the start of human civilization. These statues needed to be carved out of tools and the edu…

Post by moffkalast » Mon, Oct 02, 2023, 7:15 AM UTC

bluehorizon2 wrote: post #102

It feels like the significance of this is lost on many people. My understanding is that complex things like statues were not supposed to be possible 12,000 years ago. I think it’s supposed to be more like 6000 years ago. The fact that it has been carbon dated to 12,000 tears should means that we have to rewrite the theories on the start of human civilization. These statues needed to be carved out of tools and the edu…

Post by boffinAudio » Mon, Oct 02, 2023, 7:31 AM UTC

detourdog wrote: post #14

caprock wrote: post #3

The last couple of pictures, of the eyes and the bird, are really neat. Göbeklitepe continues to provide interesting results. It's kind of comforting and exciting that we have so much yet to uncover about the past.

I take great comfort in trying to figure out why these sites were buried. I believe the current understanding is that that were carefully covered with dirt contemporaneously with usage.