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Re: LinkedIn forcing me to disclose my phone number to log in? No thanks

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if the guy has had the account for 20 years without being banned then he's probably not a bot its a data harvesting exercise

You would think that, but you’d be wrong. Old inactive accounts get purchased and sold to bot networks all the time.

Aged accounts have very high value to hackers as well: https://www.vox.com/technology/2023/9/28/23892964/facebook-a...

Re: LinkedIn forcing me to disclose my phone number to log in? No thanks

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My approach has been, gradually, to put everything into LLCs and trusts. Mailing address is one of the storefront vendors. Two real phone numbers and a couple VOIP numbers. I mostly use Signal for people I want to speak with. I don't yet have a good screen of the address on my driver license, as I get some perks where I live and want to keep that for now. I am using passport more domestically for ID because it does n…

Note that if you are in the US, you will have to report yourself as beneficial owner of these LLCs to FinCEN starting Jan 1 2024[0]. The government super duper promises not to leak the info[1]. [0] https://www.fincen.gov/beneficial-ownership-information-repo... [1] https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/12/16/2022-27...

"Beyond the direct benefits to law enforcement and other authorized users ...".

They are going to squeeze us through banking, which they already have full visibility into.

Re: LinkedIn forcing me to disclose my phone number to log in? No thanks

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So would I. An identify/human verification API provided by USPS would be awesome.

It takes 3-5 business days for a letter to get from one desk to mine, that won't work when you want to sign-up for your next impulsive Reddit link click-through. There is id.me though (a non-governmental company, but effectively endorsed by the US federal gov), but because I highly value pseudonymity I don't want to use my on real, government-linked, identity for frivolous things - and I'm not aware of anyone like id…

> I'm not aware of anyone like id.me nor any other identity-providers offering a "human-attestation-only" service that wouldn't share any actual PII like my real-name.

Because if anyone ever offered such a service, suddenly people would no longer be incentivized not to share their account with other people. Right now, the threat of PII exposure is what keeps people accountable and selling less of their accounts to the highest bidder.

Re: LinkedIn forcing me to disclose my phone number to log in? No thanks

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I have a friend who is a lawyer and has access to LexisNexis. When I found out what is in there for sale (and it's like a 30 year old service!), I kinda wanted to give up. It all feels like "Privacy Theater". Why would I worry about linked in when people can buy my most private info from so many places that I didn't even know existed? Are we just kidding ourselves? (I live in the USA.)

You can freeze or opt-out to protect your privacy. https://consumer.risk.lexisnexis.com/freeze https://optout.lexisnexis.com/

Thanks! I filled it out and it said "Your request to have information suppressed from publicly facing public records products has been received and is in process."

So that sounds like a big-F-me. "public facing"? So private is still OK? Bah! I don't know what I'm doing. :)

Re: LinkedIn forcing me to disclose my phone number to log in? No thanks

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Demanding a phone number will not help stop the fraud. HR execs advertising for nonexistent positions have drawers full of burner phones. I wish fraudulent job advertisements were prosecuted as felonies. The value is typically in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, but there are no prosecutions.

What is the motivation for HR execs to flood the site with nonexistent positions, and does LinkedIn do anything to stop abuse like that?

I think there’s a pattern to increase follower count when people apply for jobs. There’s a check box automatically checked asking to follow, that means when you apply most likely you will follow the company.

Re: LinkedIn forcing me to disclose my phone number to log in? No thanks

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It's a standard measure to increase the cost of fake identities to decrease spam and Sybil attacks. If you exclusively belong to communities that don't have such measures, you will be dominated by third parties who create mass accounts instead of the platform. Choose your poison I guess.

if the guy has had the account for 20 years without being banned then he's probably not a bot its a data harvesting exercise

Aged Reddit accounts have a decent market. LinkedIn could easily be the same.

Re: LinkedIn forcing me to disclose my phone number to log in? No thanks

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if the guy has had the account for 20 years without being banned then he's probably not a bot its a data harvesting exercise

Aged Reddit accounts have a decent market. LinkedIn could easily be the same.

Yep. I've seen plenty of cryptoscam posts with "Elon is giving away crypto!" and a screenshot that they pretend comes from Elon's X account.

Looking at the Reddit account they can be ten years old but with no activity at all in the last five or so years, then a sudden wave of these scam posts.

Re: LinkedIn forcing me to disclose my phone number to log in? No thanks

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What is the motivation for HR execs to flood the site with nonexistent positions, and does LinkedIn do anything to stop abuse like that?

Yeah, I'm at a loss for the value of that exercise. That being said I'm sure there's some super domain specific and esoteric reasoning.

Common reasons for posting bogus listings include posting very specific requirements in order to “look for cadidates” other than a very specific person, or to claim there are no local candidates in order to hire cheaper H1-B visas. Another common reason for job postings is to make it look like you’re hiring to signal to people in the organization with certain KPI. Also, some people in the hiring process like to attempt to keep pipelines full of “good” candidates for when they might hire in the future.

Cost used to be super high to advertise jobs, so you didn’t bother when you had no openings. Now, ads are relatively cheap, so more more goofy behavior to waste people’s time.

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