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Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Licenses intended to be viral and poisonous are avoided by companies interested in ownership over their own IP. Huge shocker.

What do you mean by "poisonous"?

It's just a classic F.U.D (fear, uncertainty and doubt) tactic

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Anyone have a good comparison between this and LibreOffice?

Only Office can run in a cloud-based capacity. Think Office 365 that is able to be self-hosted.

You can also self-host Office: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/officeonlineserver/office-...

The protocol that connects the office suite to the file sharing platform is called WOPI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Application_Open_Platform_...). OneDrive/Dropbox/Nextcloud all seem to support it.

Seems like Collabora and OnlyOffice are the two big players right now.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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OnlyOffice seems to be the only FOSS office suite that handles Microsoft Office documents correctly. When I open my Word docs in LibreOffice, they still look significantly different than in Word after all these years. In OnlyOffice they look exactly like in Word. So it replaced Word-in-Wine for me.

The elephant in the room is excel not word IMO.

So how does OnlyOffice's Excel replacement compare?

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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The elephant in the room is excel not word IMO.

So how does OnlyOffice's Excel replacement compare?

in my recent (less than a year ago) experiments both struggled with excel files in different ways (some content missing), so can't be trusted as a drop-in-replacement, at least not for already existing documents.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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I’m surprised ONLYOFFICE isn’t more popular in more distributions. It’s AGPL, open source, and almost infinitely more intuitive than LibreOffice to anyone coming from Microsoft Office.

There is some confusion here. The linked GitHub repo clearly says Apache License, but their commercial website does say AGPL. They're not even remotely similar. The AGPL is regarded as so toxic that nearly all companies where office suites matter, place it on a "do not use" list. It's a good way to artificially limit your potential customers. It doesn't matter that they have a page saying "sure go ahead and use it in…

Totally bollocks.

This is pure fud. Nothing else.

AGPL DOES NOT restrict ability to be used internally. Agpl does NOT restrict selling software as it is.

Agpl does not restrict using agpl software with proprietary software.

Only thing that agpl prevent is, IF YOU MODIFY AGPL SOFTWARE, YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOURCE CODE TO USERS. Your modifications. Thats it.

AGPL DOES NOT MANDATE upstreaming modifications. You can do it or you cannot. Your choice. Others can choose to upstream or fork or Downstream your modifications

What you are confusing with is the fud google spreads about agpl. They dont touch it because if they modify code they have to release it but they don't for reasons known to them.

Again, AGPL is NOT viral like SSPL which is like AGPL but on steroids.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE/DocumentServer/issues/19 I'm still waiting for this 7 year issue. I have doubts about how open source this is. Based on the comments, someone created a PR to support RTL, but the maintainers refused to review it.

it could be too much effort to implement RTL

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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There is some confusion here. The linked GitHub repo clearly says Apache License, but their commercial website does say AGPL. They're not even remotely similar. The AGPL is regarded as so toxic that nearly all companies where office suites matter, place it on a "do not use" list. It's a good way to artificially limit your potential customers. It doesn't matter that they have a page saying "sure go ahead and use it in…

Totally bollocks. This is pure fud. Nothing else. AGPL DOES NOT restrict ability to be used internally. Agpl does NOT restrict selling software as it is. Agpl does not restrict using agpl software with proprietary software. Only thing that agpl prevent is, IF YOU MODIFY AGPL SOFTWARE, YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOURCE CODE TO USERS. Your modifications. Thats it. AGPL DOES NOT MANDATE upstreaming modifications. You can do it or…

And the weirdest part about the complaint is that this is an application your employees could run on their computers to write documents. It's not like the discussion is about a library or package to be included in the product you're shipping.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE/DocumentServer/issues/19 I'm still waiting for this 7 year issue. I have doubts about how open source this is. Based on the comments, someone created a PR to support RTL, but the maintainers refused to review it.

The responsiveness of maintainers to PRs has nothing whatsoever to do with whether it's actually open source.

True: the license is the only thing that matters for whether it is open-source or not.

Re: OnlyOffice: Free open source office suite with business productivity tools

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Totally bollocks. This is pure fud. Nothing else. AGPL DOES NOT restrict ability to be used internally. Agpl does NOT restrict selling software as it is. Agpl does not restrict using agpl software with proprietary software. Only thing that agpl prevent is, IF YOU MODIFY AGPL SOFTWARE, YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOURCE CODE TO USERS. Your modifications. Thats it. AGPL DOES NOT MANDATE upstreaming modifications. You can do it or…

And the weirdest part about the complaint is that this is an application your employees could run on their computers to write documents. It's not like the discussion is about a library or package to be included in the product you're shipping.

Yeah. I challenge people here to break my claims down point by point from agpl license.

I could be wrong but let's see how wrong I really am.

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