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Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by neilparikh »

cjpearson wrote: post #210
donmcronald wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's exactly what I do! Google and Apple could instantly fix the problem (of co-mingling essential and marketing notifications) if they wanted to . The current situation is like getting opted in to "street signs and flashing billboards". It's stupid.

Apple used to ban advertising push notifications. They began allowing them to avoid claims of anti-competitive behavior.

The funny thing was that even Apple violated that rule themselves: https://marco.org/2014/12/01/app-store-rule-5-6

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS »

robocat wrote: post #152
swayvil wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you buy your kid a smartphone you are literally inviting a squad of marketing PhDs to stalk him 24-7.

When is the right time for your kid to learn how to deal with modern life problems? You can protect your kid for a while, but sooner or later your protection becomes a bigger problem.

You start teaching them at an early age how society may see it as no big deal, but society is wrong and it's a very big deal. Show them through your actions that life is better lived without such distractions.

And be prepared for everyone to call you a conspiracy nut. But you eventually let that roll off your back when you see how happy your kids are just being kids.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by derefr »

soultrees wrote: post #4

I run my phone on DND all day, everyday and block notifications from almost all apps. The amount of garbage we have vying for our attention on an hourly basis is overwhelming sometimes. The worst is the apps where you do want notifications on, like your food delivery apps so you know when your food is at the door, but those companies take that as an invite to send you daily marketing notifications and it all feels li…

> like your food delivery apps so you know when your food is at the door, but those companies take that as an invite to send you daily marketing notifications

It really feels like apps should be required by App Store policy to separate out their notifications into "delivery channels": at least, one channel for urgent/timely notifications, and a separate channel for "something has changed, no need to check right now" notifications. Where users should then be able to configure the notification policies on each of an app's delivery channels separately.

Then, every type of notification an app can send (i.e. every string-template for a notification message) could be required to be pre-classified with the delivery channel it will use at app version release time — with the App Store review team rejecting app updates if the update, in their opinion, misclassifies the "proper" delivery channel for a given message-template.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by neilparikh »

FridgeSeal wrote: post #198
dataflow wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starbucks is like this. They deliberately bundle together "Promotions & Order Status" to make sure you receive their junk.

So does Uber (+ eats); I don’t want deals or vouchers, I don’t want to sign up to your subscription service, I only want to know when the car is arriving. Instagram I had to disable from notifications entirely, so now I miss messages from friends frequently, because the app bombards you with so much unrelated junk. I suspect these companies know this, they know we don’t want spurious notifications, but they abuse wha…

For Uber and UberEats, turns out you actually can disable marketing notifications, under the communication settings, it's just hidden away.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by drowsspa »

derefr wrote: post #223
soultrees wrote: post #4

I run my phone on DND all day, everyday and block notifications from almost all apps. The amount of garbage we have vying for our attention on an hourly basis is overwhelming sometimes. The worst is the apps where you do want notifications on, like your food delivery apps so you know when your food is at the door, but those companies take that as an invite to send you daily marketing notifications and it all feels li…

> like your food delivery apps so you know when your food is at the door, but those companies take that as an invite to send you daily marketing notifications It really feels like apps should be required by App Store policy to separate out their notifications into "delivery channels": at least, one channel for urgent/timely notifications, and a separate channel for "something has changed, no need to check right now"…

A lot of them do in Android, they put marketing promotions in a separate channel you can long press to silence

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by spike021 »

soultrees wrote: post #4

I run my phone on DND all day, everyday and block notifications from almost all apps. The amount of garbage we have vying for our attention on an hourly basis is overwhelming sometimes. The worst is the apps where you do want notifications on, like your food delivery apps so you know when your food is at the door, but those companies take that as an invite to send you daily marketing notifications and it all feels li…

I have the same issue.

But another somewhat related issue: apps that are allowed to ignore your audio settings. I have my sound muted pretty much all the time and inevitably apps I use that have ads auto play them usually with sound on at a high level. It's quite aggravating.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by devnullbrain »

smeej wrote: post #83
soultrees wrote: post #4

I run my phone on DND all day, everyday and block notifications from almost all apps. The amount of garbage we have vying for our attention on an hourly basis is overwhelming sometimes. The worst is the apps where you do want notifications on, like your food delivery apps so you know when your food is at the door, but those companies take that as an invite to send you daily marketing notifications and it all feels li…

I just turn notifications on for an app when I'm expecting one, and turn it back off when I'm done.

I just uninstall the app between orders.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by don-code »

mr_mitm wrote: post #61
haltist wrote: post #17

Sometimes I will be having a conversation with someone and then their phone will buzz or make some sound and the person's attention will shift entirely to the phone. I don't think people realize the effect these gadgets have on their cognition. I have a phone but it is always on silent. I've decided that it is not acceptable to remotely hijack my attention. No notification on my phone sent by some corporation is ever…

That's why I believe phone calls should be considered intrusive these days. Unless it's an emergency or you're my mom, you should send a text. I'm not going to notice anyway unless I'm looking at my phone while you call.

I also believe this. The counterpoint was made to me by a close friend who prefers to call (I also have friends who _only_ call) - "you really only engage people on your own terms" - which in some ways makes me a bad friend.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by PopePompus »

FridgeSeal wrote: post #198
dataflow wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starbucks is like this. They deliberately bundle together "Promotions & Order Status" to make sure you receive their junk.

So does Uber (+ eats); I don’t want deals or vouchers, I don’t want to sign up to your subscription service, I only want to know when the car is arriving. Instagram I had to disable from notifications entirely, so now I miss messages from friends frequently, because the app bombards you with so much unrelated junk. I suspect these companies know this, they know we don’t want spurious notifications, but they abuse wha…

Yes, and websites know that we don't want video advertisements playing everywhere on the screen, but it doesn't matter because we're the product, not the customer.

Re: Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

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Post by mcmoor »

soultrees wrote: post #4

I run my phone on DND all day, everyday and block notifications from almost all apps. The amount of garbage we have vying for our attention on an hourly basis is overwhelming sometimes. The worst is the apps where you do want notifications on, like your food delivery apps so you know when your food is at the door, but those companies take that as an invite to send you daily marketing notifications and it all feels li…

> The worst is the apps where you do want notifications on, like your food delivery apps so you know when your food is at the door, but those companies take that as an invite to send you daily marketing notifications and it all feels like a breach of trust.

Ah yes this is one of my pet peeve. I have resorted to block those notifications too and forced to check the app periodically for any update if I'm waiting for something. Those bastards rely on people eventually tired of that and let ad notifications through but so far I still stand fast. Although it helps that I rarely buy online.

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