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12,000-year-old realistic human statue was unearthed

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Re: 12,000-year-old realistic human statue was unearthed

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Post by biorach »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #19
khole wrote: post #2

The recent excavations unearthed a painted wild boar statue, a human statue, and a vulture statue. All statues are new gateways to understanding pre-historic art and culture.

Not being snarky but the big deal is we're pushing back the line (read: year / era) dividing pre-history from history. These discoveries became history now, yes?

Nope.

> Prehistory, also called pre-literary history, is the period of human history between the first known use of stone tools by hominins c. 3.3 million years ago and the beginning of recorded history with the invention of writing systems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistory

The big deal is that these art works are far more sophisticated that anything else we have seen so early.

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Post by late2part »

biorach wrote: post #21
chiefalchemist wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not being snarky but the big deal is we're pushing back the line (read: year / era) dividing pre-history from history. These discoveries became history now, yes?

Nope. > Prehistory, also called pre-literary history, is the period of human history between the first known use of stone tools by hominins c. 3.3 million years ago and the beginning of recorded history with the invention of writing systems. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistory The big deal is that these art works are far more sophisticated that anything else we have seen so early.

Names don't constitute knowledge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFIYKmos3-s&t=1s

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Post by pavlov »

INTPenis wrote: post #20
pelorat wrote: post #4

That's not what I consider a "realistic human statue" ?

Yeah I was expecting something like a greek statue with very realistic human features, but I guess this is still astounding since other statues of the time are even less anthropomorphous.

We have a fairly good idea of how sculpture evolved in the past 5,000 years or so. By 2500 BCE, the Egyptians had already mastered realistic sculpture:

https://www.mfa.org/gallery/masterpieces-of-egyptian-sculptu...

But this discovery is a whopping 7,500 years older. It would have been inconceivably ancient to the pyramid builders too.

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Post by silisili »

dghughes wrote: post #12

What a crazy week for old things discovered this statue at Göbekli Tepe and the 400,000 year-old notched lumber beams in Zambia. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66846772

Wow, didn't see that Zambia one, that's big news to me.

Question - how can they prove that someone in more recent times didn't notch more ancient wood?

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Post by usrusr »

andrewstuart wrote: post #22

It makes me happy that it's possible that future humans might live again on an earth 12,000 years in the future which has cooled again after our civilisation has boiled the planet.

Why would it cool in 12k years? We are loading the atmosphere with carbon sequestered over much longer periods. Some of which even happened in a phase of massive imbalance in the evolutionary "war" between plants and plant consumers: trees had found a way to never rot (be consumed) which is rather tragic for incumbent biological systems but a crazy boost for carbon sequestering.

The problem is not that we produce heat, the problem is that we change the balance point between energy influx from the sun and energy emission to space. That changed balance point will remain changed much, much longer than 12k years. If we don't have a technological miracle, humans 12k in the future will live in tiny habitable zones near the poles.

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Post by jcpst »

dghughes wrote: post #12

What a crazy week for old things discovered this statue at Göbekli Tepe and the 400,000 year-old notched lumber beams in Zambia. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66846772

> Scientists created models to show how overlapping logs could have been used

I love how in other words you could also say “played with lincoln logs” :)

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