According to this Jeff Bezos took a flight from Seattle to Genova, Italy.
I didn't know small private jets were capable of long haul flights like that without stopping.
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not sure why you're so deeply triggered by this; is your name on that list of top consumers that you would be personally affected? Your comment comes across as yet another average joe randomly defending billionaires wrecking the world while we take the consequences of it. Meanwhile yet another daily disaster in nature, 100s of dolphins are dead today from record temperatures https://www.insider.com/dolphins-dead-braz…
>Not sure why you're so deeply triggered by this; is your name on that list that you would be personally affected? Your only response to someone finding this a gross overreach is to try and strawman them by suggesting I'm personally on the list? I'm not defending billionaires any more than I'm defending an average person. Going down the road suggested (putting yearly or lifetime caps on how much CO2 you can produce)…
Maybe the disconnect here is a misunderstanding of how much wealth billionaires have. We could increase fuel tax by 1000x, increase landing fees by 1000x, and this would not even begin to give billionaires pause on waste and excess flying.
The average person will be priced out by taxes and increased fees far long before any mega wealthy person will even feel it as a stiff breeze against their accounts.
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#93I'm not sure about the accuracy of this data. It gives Taylor Swift's plane as N989TS, but N989TS is registered to a couple who live in Arizona: https://registry.faa.gov/AircraftInquiry/Search/NNumberResul... and is a tiny single-prop aircraft. I don't think you could go cross-country in it.
It’s a Vans RV10. Easily capable of going cross country. It has a range of 1000 miles.
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#94I wonder if we can see Mark Zuckerberg learning to fly here, or perhaps to skydive? A lot of recent flights that start in one city, fly to Tahoe, don't stop, but do a big turn around there, then go back home. Or which otherwise go way out of the way to do a short loop around Tahoe then land at a destination, and one a few months back that seemingly just circled there for a while.
Or... maybe he's taking aerial photography -- always watching! /s
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#95Hard for me to get worked up about this. If you're rich, you're going to spend the money on something. It barely matters if that's on a cross-country flight, a large house, multiple cars, or a boat. The environmental impact is very similar.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's missing here is a sense of scale. Routine private jet flights are nothing compared to last mile freight such as Amazon. Short frequent trips by delivery drivers from your local warehouse to your doorstep should not be so wasteful. The largest source of pollution is freight in general. Hating on individuals solves nothing at all.
That’s not true. The carbon emissions of rich people are enormous compared to that of regular people. Here’s just one finding, that the richest 1% of the world’s population cause as much carbon emissions as the poorest 50%: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/21/worlds-r...
The richest 1% in the world is 80 million people, a god chunk of the Western population.
Private jets are a distraction from the real sources of emissions. But people start rioting when their power bills go up.
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#97According to this Jeff Bezos took a flight from Seattle to Genova, Italy. I didn't know small private jets were capable of long haul flights like that without stopping.
Extended range, external tanks
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#98What is the point of this? Why do people care? Do you expect these people to fly commercial like you and me? Hoping for that fateful day when you're sandwiched between Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos on a Ryanair flight, so you can give them your elevator speech with all three of your knees pressed up against your nostrils? Taylor Swift would be mobbed everywhere in the airport. Donald was a former president. The Secret Se…
I don't even think that these people need to "justify" their energy use.
It seems that the vast majority of people have an innate need to hate on other groups of people. Not only that, but it seems that when presented with a cross-cutting societal problem (like carbon neutrality), "hating on others" seems to be a substitute for actually doing something intelligent about the problem.
Our society is fundamentally based on energy use, and if we actually collectively cared about carbon-neutrality, we have an immense amount of potential clean energy available to us in the form of solar and nuclear. There's no need to play this silly hate game.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not sure why you're so deeply triggered by this; is your name on that list of top consumers that you would be personally affected? Your comment comes across as yet another average joe randomly defending billionaires wrecking the world while we take the consequences of it. Meanwhile yet another daily disaster in nature, 100s of dolphins are dead today from record temperatures https://www.insider.com/dolphins-dead-braz…
>Not sure why you're so deeply triggered by this; is your name on that list that you would be personally affected? Your only response to someone finding this a gross overreach is to try and strawman them by suggesting I'm personally on the list? I'm not defending billionaires any more than I'm defending an average person. Going down the road suggested (putting yearly or lifetime caps on how much CO2 you can produce)…
I think you can put a cap by taxing: tax fuel 100 billion dollars per litre, then offer a tax break for the x first litres :)
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#100A recent flight by Zuckerberg consuming 1.4 tons of CO2 just to get from New Jersey to Jamaica Bay NYC while travelling multiple times the distance between the two if he'd taken a car in a more or less cross-line. His money, his choice on how to use it, but it's rather incredible coming from a guy who yammers on so much to the media about social responsibilities... Some things never change, and one of them is the way…
I doubt he was on board for that flight. Generally , flights like that one exist because the airplane is somewhere other than the most convenient place for the owner to take off from, so the crew repositions the plane in a better location for a more convenient pick up. I don't think that this really invalidates your overall conclusion or anything, just wanted to point that out.
Fair enough, but as you say, doesn't change anything, possibly even makes it worse because that fuel was used entirely for his convenience just to move a plane closer, before he even hopped aboard for his flight.