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Unexpected benefits of sun exposure on skin

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Re: Unexpected benefits of sun exposure on skin

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You want UVB and not UVA, but UVB is weaker than UVA so all sunblocking type products necessarily enrich your exposure to the bad kind. The time when the ratio of UVB to UVA is highest (best time) between 10 am to 2 pm, or when your shadow is not longer than your height. So 20 mins in the sun at noon without sunblock is best, and after that if you’re pale then slather on the sunscreen.

The article specifically mentions how nitric oxide is only released from UVA activation.

Yeah, just read that and I was going to edit my comment.

Re: Unexpected benefits of sun exposure on skin

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Interesting. I've never been that worried, my skin doesn't burn easily even though I'm very fair-skinned and live in Spain and often hike outdoors.

I just hate that SPF stuff on my skin. It makes it sticky and makes me feel dirty. Instead I just try to avoid burning. I do bring some for when it does start but it almost never does. What I do to avoid it works well enough.

What I tend to do is just take the shady side of the road wherever possible and for the rest of the time just not worry too much unless I really feel I start getting burned. I check that by scratching my skin with my nail, once it starts burning it feels sharper. Then I'd put on the lotion. And by the time I get home my skin will be slightly red but not seriously burned. Which is pretty rare because I tend to tan naturally. By the time spring starts I already have a light brown shade and it protects me during summer. Most of the time I don't even burn at all.

What I do think is bad is someone living in a dark nothern country going on holidays for 2 weeks and spending 2 weeks lying on the beach in the full mediterranean sun. Sunblock or not. My ex used to do that and she got totally burned on the first day even with the sunblock and then spent the rest of the weeks complaining :) I used to live in such a country and I was always more careful during holidays.

Re: Unexpected benefits of sun exposure on skin

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post #8

Is it just full spectrum light or specific UV sections? I wonder if future building codes will require some type of intermittent full spectrum or UV light in certain areas. Maybe in a bathroom with a timer that shuts it off a few seconds after someone enters.

Glass blocks most of UVB and a chunk of UVA, so there isn't currently a good solution for indoor full spectrum light exposure.

Normal glass blocks most of it. But pure SiO2 fused quartz does not. A bit more affordable is probably borosilicate glass and I would like to have my windows replaced with them, but it is not really sold as a common window. So you can probably get one, but it won't be cheap.

Re: Unexpected benefits of sun exposure on skin

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Interesting. I've never been that worried, my skin doesn't burn easily even though I'm very fair-skinned and live in Spain and often hike outdoors. I just hate that SPF stuff on my skin. It makes it sticky and makes me feel dirty. Instead I just try to avoid burning. I do bring some for when it does start but it almost never does. What I do to avoid it works well enough. What I tend to do is just take the shady side…

I’m also not a fan of the feeling of sunblock. I’ve learned as an adult that long sleeves and a hat go a looong ways.

Re: Unexpected benefits of sun exposure on skin

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I've always been skeptical of dermatologist insistence that sun exposure is unequivocally bad. It never made sense. If human health and lifespan were so negatively affected by sunlight, we would all be covered in fur, or everyone would be as dark skinned as populations living near the equator. Like everything else in life, "moderation in all things" is the best rule to follow. If you spend your life getting deep dark…

No kidding. It seems such an obvious example of industry taking a kernel of truth and blowing it out of proportion to promote a market for themselves. Yes, sunscreen is beneficial in certain situations, but I know some people who slather all their exposed skin with chemicals to "protect" from the sun over the 5 minutes they spend outside while carrying groceries into the house.

Re: Unexpected benefits of sun exposure on skin

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I was about to believe the results as they caution that it's only showing the benefits for northern countries like UK and they control for exercise, but then I saw in the paper that they characterize 'sun-seeking behaviour' variable through 'how many times a year would you use a solarium or sunlamp?'. I think people who use solariums is a very special category of people, and I am not sure one can extrapolate from that group to people who enjoy the Sun.

Re: Unexpected benefits of sun exposure on skin

#29

Interesting. I've never been that worried, my skin doesn't burn easily even though I'm very fair-skinned and live in Spain and often hike outdoors. I just hate that SPF stuff on my skin. It makes it sticky and makes me feel dirty. Instead I just try to avoid burning. I do bring some for when it does start but it almost never does. What I do to avoid it works well enough. What I tend to do is just take the shady side…

I'll just wear light hoodies and sweat pants if I go fishing sometimes my face still gets burned a little because while I don't look at the sun much or get much sun directly to by face because of my hoodie, the sunlight is also reflected off the lake into my face and I often overlook that bit .... I've got a full beard so that blocks most burns now but I've had many really bad burns when I was young 10 to 16 years old . Now I'm 43 and I'm constantly D deficient even on 5000 units daily, if I don't supplement I really feel like crap and get sick more often.

Re: Unexpected benefits of sun exposure on skin

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I was about to believe the results as they caution that it's only showing the benefits for northern countries like UK and they control for exercise, but then I saw in the paper that they characterize 'sun-seeking behaviour' variable through 'how many times a year would you use a solarium or sunlamp?'. I think people who use solariums is a very special category of people, and I am not sure one can extrapolate from tha…

I agree. Despite the "more active" category being anyone who answered that they would use a solarium even once per year, they're still only 6% of the study population if I did the math right (see Table 1 on page 10). It also seems noteworthy that the study cited for that correlation was primarily investigating the factors driving use of tanning beds, not sun exposure.
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