It would be equally important to make a graph of how much CO2 they offset by paying taxes, even if only theoretically.
Taxes fund many things, but converting carbon dioxide and water back into carbohydrates is usually not one of them.
Celebrity Flights
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#42Pointing towards this to help reconcile some of the hypocrisy from celebrity messaging seems productive towards better discourse on climate change imo
"Oh, but it doesn't count when I do it."
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#43666 tons of CO2 for Zuckerberg. Coincidence?
I'm more appalled by a 30min, 1.2T co2 flight from him..
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#44666 tons of CO2 for Zuckerberg. Coincidence?
Yes!
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#45I kinda find it creepy tracking people’s flights. Besides, some jet owners charter out their planes when not in use, so it’s incorrect to attribute all the miles to them.
I think there's a hard public interest in tracking flights. They're so safe these days that we can kind of forget that we're talking about moving multi-ton vehicles over people's homes, churches, and schools, where anything going wrong can result in significant loss of life and property damage... At the very least, I want to know who and when as a societal tradeoff for the privilege of using the air over our heads fr…
Your argument applies equally to cars.
For a low price per car we could track all cars and also ensure they don't break a bunch of rules (say speed, acceleration, traffic lights) where drivers endanger others.
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#46Pointing towards this to help reconcile some of the hypocrisy from celebrity messaging seems productive towards better discourse on climate change imo
What's missing here is a sense of scale. Routine private jet flights are nothing compared to last mile freight such as Amazon. Short frequent trips by delivery drivers from your local warehouse to your doorstep should not be so wasteful. The largest source of pollution is freight in general. Hating on individuals solves nothing at all.
> Short frequent trips by delivery drivers from your local warehouse to your doorstep should not be so wasteful.
Don’t they bundle these up so each trip serves as many people as possible?
Also isn’t the alternative where the customer drives themselves to the store to pick up the same good just as bad if not possibly worse?
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#47Since 99.9% of the flights and the people are already registered, there should be a worldwide limitation per each of the person for CO2 emissions.
The ability to restrict something doesn't imply it's ideal to restrict that thing. Some people should use more CO2, just like some people should go to space, or some people should be lawyer.
I'm not sure they're totally equivalent because law degrees and jobs as astronauts aren't exactly zero-sum.
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#48This should be illegal.
I think we’d have trouble banning it outright, but we could maybe give everyone a set amount of carbon credits per life (or maybe doled out on a yearly basis), and then the rich would at least have to buy pollution capacity from the poor? They are ruining everybody’s planet after all, not just their own.
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#49Note the disclaimer at the bottom of all the eyeball grabbing stats:
Disclaimer: Data presented is not manually verified and its accuracy is not guaranteed.
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#50Since 99.9% of the flights and the people are already registered, there should be a worldwide limitation per each of the person for CO2 emissions.
The ability to restrict something doesn't imply it's ideal to restrict that thing. Some people should use more CO2, just like some people should go to space, or some people should be lawyer.
This can be adapted into different scenarios or use cases. At least it could be the first action into the CO2 emission problem that everybody is complaining about but nobody really does a thing. Well, also maybe we can let Kim Kardashian to have Zoom calls rather than taking flights.