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Re: Celebrity Flights

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Post by echelon »

cj wrote: post #17
high_priest wrote: post #8

170 flights in a year averaging 200 minutes in air for... kim kardashian? What the heck does she need to fly for so far every other day?

Looking at her flight log, my guess is the jet she owns is run by a company that rents it out to other people. If that’s not the case, I have no idea why anyone would fly from Atlanta to Savannah and then depart again 2 hours later. Must be rented out to others

> Atlanta to Savannah and then depart again 2 hours later

Savannah is such a hidden and unique gem, and truly one of the most beautiful cities in the country. It's not hard to imagine taking a quick meeting there. Lots of important people flow through the city.

I'm hoping we get high speed rail on the Atlanta-Savannah corridor one day. The drive is a real slog and it's filled with deceptively unfair speed traps from podunk little towns using speeding tickets as their primary source of revenue.

Re: Celebrity Flights

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Post by cowsandmilk »

PUSH_AX wrote: post #16

Is this tracking a specific jet associated with a person, or the person?

Tracking the jet owned by the person, which as others have pointed out, often is rented out for others to use (or they let friends, coworkers, etc take trips)

Re: Celebrity Flights

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Post by kensai »

420official wrote: post #15
skilled wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. Outside of that, do any of these people do any other activities that offset the damage they do with their private jets? Just wondering because this is such blatant clickbait material for an editorial, I won’t be surprised if an article about it is being written right now.

Offsetting your damage doesn't change the fact that you are causing damage. What would be good is if these people stopped flying around the billionaire circuit on private jets _and_ paid their fair share of taxes but that's too much to ask these days. I do agree having a separate list of who pays the most in taxes relative to wealth/income would be interesting but also obviously less accurat.

In some airlines you can pay some extra to offset the damage you do according to the CO2 you produced on said distance.

Re: Celebrity Flights

#34

Post by ajaimk »

cj wrote: post #17
high_priest wrote: post #8

170 flights in a year averaging 200 minutes in air for... kim kardashian? What the heck does she need to fly for so far every other day?

Looking at her flight log, my guess is the jet she owns is run by a company that rents it out to other people. If that’s not the case, I have no idea why anyone would fly from Atlanta to Savannah and then depart again 2 hours later. Must be rented out to others

Is it a Gulfstream? Might be a maintenance run since Gulfstream's HQ is in Savannah.

Re: Celebrity Flights

#35

Post by seeknotfind »

mcbrienollie wrote: post #22

Since 99.9% of the flights and the people are already registered, there should be a worldwide limitation per each of the person for CO2 emissions.

The ability to restrict something doesn't imply it's ideal to restrict that thing. Some people should use more CO2, just like some people should go to space, or some people should be lawyer.

Re: Celebrity Flights

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Post by shadowgovt »

cj wrote: post #17
high_priest wrote: post #8

170 flights in a year averaging 200 minutes in air for... kim kardashian? What the heck does she need to fly for so far every other day?

Looking at her flight log, my guess is the jet she owns is run by a company that rents it out to other people. If that’s not the case, I have no idea why anyone would fly from Atlanta to Savannah and then depart again 2 hours later. Must be rented out to others

There's a concept called the "$100-dollar hamburger" in aviation, which is where one takes an otherwise-unnecessary trip for aviation reasons (i.e. maintaining minimum flight time for qualifications, shaking down a plane after maintenance, etc.).

Atlanta -> Savannah -> Atlanta with a 2-hour turnaround could be hundred-dollar hamburger. It might also be two different people using the jet. But... TBH, it might also be that she owns a jet and wants to take a day-trip.

Re: Celebrity Flights

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Post by cowsandmilk »

bko wrote: post #28
boeingUH60 wrote: post #4

I kinda find it creepy tracking people’s flights. Besides, some jet owners charter out their planes when not in use, so it’s incorrect to attribute all the miles to them.

Some people say its based on public data but I think that its tapping into a network of moles to track celebrities. Really creepy stuff. > This confuses the issue though. ICAO numbers change if your aircraft is enrolled in the PIA program, which Elon is. Sweeny was bypassing this by using people on the ground to circumvent this by watching the jet's movement and if an aircraft was going to takeoff that had an unknown…

> network of moles to track celebrities

These people don’t care about celebrities. They literally sit and watch planes take off for hours at a time because they enjoy it. Nearly every airport has a field of people doing that regardless of whether celebrities are around.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_spotting

Re: Celebrity Flights

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Post by recursive »

sublinear wrote: post #29
icpmacdo wrote: post #20

Pointing towards this to help reconcile some of the hypocrisy from celebrity messaging seems productive towards better discourse on climate change imo

What's missing here is a sense of scale. Routine private jet flights are nothing compared to last mile freight such as Amazon. Short frequent trips by delivery drivers from your local warehouse to your doorstep should not be so wasteful. The largest source of pollution is freight in general. Hating on individuals solves nothing at all.

Celebrities probably order from Amazon too.

Re: Celebrity Flights

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Post by fragmede »

seeknotfind wrote: post #35
mcbrienollie wrote: post #22

Since 99.9% of the flights and the people are already registered, there should be a worldwide limitation per each of the person for CO2 emissions.

The ability to restrict something doesn't imply it's ideal to restrict that thing. Some people should use more CO2, just like some people should go to space, or some people should be lawyer.

There are heavy restrictions on the number of people you're allowed to kill.
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