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A Woman’s Story

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> The fact that she was a woman and black ultimately didn't make a difference to the, presumably, white men that hired her. so sticking it out is a credit to her. it's likely though that the industry missed out on others who were qualified, but too put off to get that far.

Damn it, I didn't click on the link at the end.

I've deleted my comment out of respect for raganwald's mother. Even I have lines I won't cross...

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However, she had to go above and beyond to prove she was that capable and talented - she and her family had to fight to get her placed in a non-trade school and she had to take additional tests to show that her scores were legitimate. If she had been a white male, she would have been placed in the appropriate secondary school immediately and she would have been hired on the spot without further issue.

It's a story about someone who, despite proving themselves to be capable and talented as their peers, would have been passed over if they hadn't fought to be recognized. Ultimately her race/gender didn't make a difference, but it certainly made getting where she wanted an ordeal.

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> The fact that she was a woman and black ultimately didn't make a difference to the, presumably, white men that hired her. so sticking it out is a credit to her. it's likely though that the industry missed out on others who were qualified, but too put off to get that far.

Damn it, I didn't click on the link at the end. I've deleted my comment out of respect for raganwald's mother. Even I have lines I won't cross...

I don’t mind your comment. If it fosters productive discussion, it’s a win.

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There were a lot of questions about numbers such as guessing the next number in a sequence. There were some logic puzzles, the kind where you have to figure out that it’s the baker who rides a bicycle and the mechanic who lives in the house with a red door. There were some strange questions where she was given a sketch of a three dimensional figure such as a cube with some missing pieces, and she had to guess which s…

I had a good friend who studied school psychology, and she let me see some of the IQ tests in use.

I think you'd be surprised just how biased some of them are, and how reliant on cultural knowledge.

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There were a lot of questions about numbers such as guessing the next number in a sequence. There were some logic puzzles, the kind where you have to figure out that it’s the baker who rides a bicycle and the mechanic who lives in the house with a red door. There were some strange questions where she was given a sketch of a three dimensional figure such as a cube with some missing pieces, and she had to guess which s…

I had a good friend who studied school psychology, and she let me see some of the IQ tests in use. I think you'd be surprised just how biased some of them are, and how reliant on cultural knowledge.

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> The fact that she was a woman and black ultimately didn't make a difference to the, presumably, white men that hired her. so sticking it out is a credit to her. it's likely though that the industry missed out on others who were qualified, but too put off to get that far.

And it's still missing out. My girlfriend was told that she was "in the wrong room" for one of her comp sci exams, back in the dark ages of... 2000 or so, in one of the most progressive countries in the world.

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There were a lot of questions about numbers such as guessing the next number in a sequence. There were some logic puzzles, the kind where you have to figure out that it’s the baker who rides a bicycle and the mechanic who lives in the house with a red door. There were some strange questions where she was given a sketch of a three dimensional figure such as a cube with some missing pieces, and she had to guess which s…

The fact that an IQ test worked favourably for someone from a disadvantaged background doesn't demonstrate anything about their appropriateness as an assessor of intelligence. IQ is just a metric. I'm glad employers aren't using it to replace human judgment.
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