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ChatGPT-4 significantly increased performance of business consultants

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Re: ChatGPT-4 significantly increased performance of business consultants

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Post by ShamelessC »

footy wrote: post #266
simonw wrote: post #159

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Have you spent any time learning how to use Copilot? Getting great results out of it takes a lot of experimentation and practice. I wouldn't want to give it up now I've learned how to use it.

I've spent some time using it and experimenting with different prompts, but to be honest it's hard to be motivated to spend more time on it given the disappointing results so far. I need to see a glimmer of it being useful before I decide the investment is worth it, I guess.

Are you using it with Python 3?

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Post by benreesman »

coffeefirst wrote: post #230
matheusmoreira wrote: post #210

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Isn't ChatGPT getting progressively better scores on medical and law exams? It will probably pass the USMLE and the bar one day. If it doesn't already. It's gonna be interesting.

Yes, but we should expect that, the answers are in its training data. The problem is passing tests are an okay proxy for competence in humans, but if you think of LLMs as a giant library search engine, the thing it is competent at is identifying and regurgitating compiled phrases from its records. Which is awesome. It can't be a doctor.

Relatedly, a lot of the cap R fanfic crowd points at stuff pretty clearly lifted out of the Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect or whatever.

And it’s dope that it can do that!

But let’s keep our heads about what it is.

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Post by chaosbolt »

simonmesmith wrote: post #65
chaosbolt wrote: post #20

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Companies like BCG and McKinsey are mostly about liability, as a CEO you call them, pay them the big bucks, have them make up plans and strategies, if it works out you get the credit, if it doesn't then well "we worked tightly with experts from McKinsey, etc. so the blame isn't on me"

Yeah, but I wonder if it’s even more powerful to say, “we asked the world’s most powerful AI and it recommended that we lay off 20% of our staff, while ensuring we treated them all fairly.”

That's probably what they say to each other... Just looking at the garbage produced by movie studios recently you can't not ask yourself if the scripts are AI generated... And that's just the scripts let alone those crazy budgets that still produce movies that look like N64 games.

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Post by Rexxar »

nopinsight wrote: post #105
Rexxar wrote: post #33

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The published article is not at all about programming tasks but about generating text for "strategy consultant". Some example found page 10 of the original article: - Propose at least 10 ideas for a new shoe targeting an underserved market or sport. - Segment the footwear industry market based on users. - Draft a press release marketing copy for your product. - Pen an inspirational memo to employees detailing why you…

> Nothing of real value imho. Without the right target market, business model, and effective methods to reach customers, the most brilliant pair of shoes or piece of code can be useless (unless someone works to repurpose them as art or a teaching tool).

Each question is too generic and there was apparently no specific input data to act upon. How a valid business model can be expected in those condition ?

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Post by simonw »

gumballindie wrote: post #268
simonw wrote: post #163

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That's one of about a dozen at this point - but yeah, that's the one that I used LLMs to research the initial triggers and schema design for. Here's the transcript (it pre-dates the ChatGPT share feature): https://gist.github.com/simonw/1aa4050f3f7d92b048ae414a40cdd... I wrote more about it here: https://simonwillison.net/2023/Apr/15/sqlite-history/ Here's another one I built using AppleScript: https://github.com/dog…

While it is impressive that an ai can generate all this, the code is anything but significant. Using triggers for history is one sure way to bring a scalable system down fast and one of the first lessons a junior will learn.

Are you sure that holds with SQLite? My benchmarks so far have shown it to add a pretty inconsequential overhead.

Also: not every system has to be a scalable system. That's another lesson junior engineers (should) learn.

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Post by simonw »

gumballindie wrote: post #267
simonw wrote: post #149

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I have twenty years of programming experience and LLMs give me a significant productivity boost for programming on a daily basis: https://simonwillison.net/2023/Sep/29/llms-podcast/#code-int...

I have met my share of folks with decades of experience that was not of quality. The most hilarious are those that open tar gz files using notepad wondering where the code is to those that work on the web but dont know what xsrf is. Experience while long if it’s of the not so great type doesnt count. Not saying this is the case. LLMs do produce impressive code. Even if they were indeed just procedural generators it w…

"But the issue is that you can tell it makes no sense, there is no thought process behind it. It fits in no greater picture."

Completely agree with you. That's my job. The LLM is effectively my typing assistant.

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Post by moneywoes »

hubraumhugo wrote: post #15

Well, this sounds like perfect tasks for GPT: "Participants responded to a total of 18 tasks (or as many as they could within the given time frame). These tasks spanned various domains. Specifically, they can be categorized into four types: creativity (e.g., “Propose at least 10 ideas for a new shoe targeting an underserved market or sport.”), analytical thinking (e.g., “Segment the footwear industry market based on…

does that say more about gpt or management consulting

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Post by moneywoes »

j45 wrote: post #198
mlinhares wrote: post #153

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It’s insane that people think producing pop music is easy. Competing on the pop music market is a cutthroat business with a lot of competition and the good ones get their price back in gold. When Scorpions wanted to be resurrected they hired Desmond Child to produce them and he absolutely crushed. These people are very good at what they do and there are very few of them.

Is there a HN for management consultants? Depending you ask pop music is a formula and that one dude from Sweden has the formula perfected.

fishbowl?

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Post by footy »

ShamelessC wrote: post #271
footy wrote: post #266

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I've spent some time using it and experimenting with different prompts, but to be honest it's hard to be motivated to spend more time on it given the disappointing results so far. I need to see a glimmer of it being useful before I decide the investment is worth it, I guess.

Are you using it with Python 3?

not really, typescript and Rust mostly
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