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Poll: What is your current Stack Overflow reputation?

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Re: Poll: What is your current Stack Overflow reputation?

#61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reputation points in niche tags are definitely harder won than in the popular language tags, but (as you've demonstrated) it's easier to climb to the top of a niche tag and establish yourself as an expert. The real-world reputation you gain from that is more valuable than the reputation score on the site. Great job!

The high-traffic tags are full of low-quality or frequently asked questions. The amount of duplication in e.g. the C++ tag is staggering, but there doesn't seem to be a conscious effort to enforce a no-duplicate policy of any kind. Picking out worthwhile questions is difficult with all that noise. Worse, the "unanswered" section is full of questions that have been answered, the asker just never bothered to click acce…

> the asker just never bothered to click accept . . . and the original user is evidently no longer interested in getting it answered.

I find this very annoying, too. I can understand why it would happen from the point of view of the asker: he might have found the answer on some other website 5 minutes later, or he might have just decided to find a workaround. Still, I think SO should remind people to accept answers (penalize them for having low accept rates) or have the most upvoted answer selected automatically after a while. Nobody wants to write detailed answers for someone who isn't interested in the question anymore.

Re: Poll: What is your current Stack Overflow reputation?

#62

I find participating in SO extremely annoying. Tried few times and gave up. I can't downvote an answer that is patently absurd. I can't upvote an answer that is right. Apparently that's because I have to prove myself first. If I write a response (that damn sure answers the question), it sits at zero, because its usefulness appears to be directly dependent on my reputation, of which I have none. In general, there's ju…

Your experience is different than mine. My answers usually seem to get voted up proportionally to how good they are. Granted, it's been a while since I've actively participated, so things may have changed.

Re: Poll: What is your current Stack Overflow reputation?

#63

I'm one of the 83 people who have earned a silver Objective-C badge, whatever that means. Maybe I can get that on a shirt. I was quite active on the site for about a year, and then my enthusiasm for answering questions suddenly dropped off. I don't know if the quality of questions got worse or what. Sometimes I miss the old days of comp.lang.c++.moderated. Except the part about being a C++ programmer, that is.

If you're answering Objective-C questions, I think quality has definitely dropped off since the site started. These days it's about 50-50 whether a given question will boil down to "I don't understand why different instances of my UIViewController subclass are different objects." (Incidentally, my claim to SO fame is that I was the first person there to get a Ruby badge. I think that makes me king of the hipsters or something.)

Re: Poll: What is your current Stack Overflow reputation?

#64

Does anyone have the same problem with SO that I do? I'm an experienced dev in some general / mature technologies, mainly the C-like languages (I know C# inside out) but essentially, nothing too specialised. Anytime I've gone on SO to try to contribute I find it hard to find questions to answer. It's either a race to answer a trivial question quickly, or an obscure - possibly badly worded or incomplete - question tha…

It's not just you :D

The way I see it working:

1. Go to homepage.

2. Find unanswered questions that you can answer and answer them. In the process, elaborate with the OP, to help as much as you can.

3. Go to 1 until you become efficient enough (maybe 3 mins max), to be the first to answer a detailed answer (Usually the easy questions get a lot of hots, since more people are trying to answer those, so try to be the first to answer).

4. Hope that the question police won't close the question as not real question (usually noobs at programming or just on specified tags AND super-noobs at English can not even describe / explain what the problem is, but you can figure it out for them). I spot a problem here: The whole deal is to help people with their problems. Even if their problems include poor English / programming skills. You can not reject them by saying: "Hey! Learn English and then we'll tell you the solution." or "Hey! Come back in 3 months, when you'll be a better coder, so that you can explain better what you need. Then we'll tell you the solution.". I think some moderators stick so much to the rules, that forget the original plan of helping the fellow coders. 5. Go to 1 for countless hours (currently on popular tags, such as PHP, Javascript, jQuery, HTML I calculated that I can increase my rep about 10 per hour, near-fail rate, right?). You have nothing to lose. Answering makes you better. If you get a few downvotes, then you'll start check and double check before answering.

And a few rules of the thumb:

FIFO: Usually the OP gives the correct answer to the person that answers first (As it should be).

Reputation goes to reputation: When there are 4 or 5 similar answers, the persons with the higher rep get the most upvotes (reasonable, but probably unfair).

Use an example: Even if the question goes like "should I use A or B to do this?" and you know that A is the way to go, you don't just answer "Use A". You will get downvoted. But if you answer "Use A. I would do it like this: ...", then you might get a few upvotes (insane for me, but considering that you are helping to build a knowledge base, I'd say tolerable).

Learn stuff: the more you know, the more questions you may answer (now we're getting somewhere).

Spend your valuable free time on answering questions: It is a very nice feeling to give back to a community that you got from (and usually you get multiple times what you give). And it is a very nice feeling to support a worldwide knowledge base for your profession. But, since you compete with other professionals, you have to devote a lot of time to stand out, not by being the best, but by being the best on answering questions (not the same and kind of lame).

Stop thinking "Hey!? Did I just work for free the past x hours?": You just helped someone else! And in the future more people will benefit from your answer! (some things are just priceless :D).

Re: Poll: What is your current Stack Overflow reputation?

#65

I find participating in SO extremely annoying. Tried few times and gave up. I can't downvote an answer that is patently absurd. I can't upvote an answer that is right. Apparently that's because I have to prove myself first. If I write a response (that damn sure answers the question), it sits at zero, because its usefulness appears to be directly dependent on my reputation, of which I have none. In general, there's ju…

I was going to just downvote your reply, until I got to the last line :).

Sites like SO have a HUGE "newbie" problem. If they allowed brand new users full permissions to upvote, downvote, etc., there would be a lot more "wrong" votes from people who don't understand the site yet.

I started at zero, and yet I was able to gain enough reputation to function. The usefulness of your answer is not directly dependent on your reputation.

Re: Poll: What is your current Stack Overflow reputation?

#66

Does anyone have the same problem with SO that I do? I'm an experienced dev in some general / mature technologies, mainly the C-like languages (I know C# inside out) but essentially, nothing too specialised. Anytime I've gone on SO to try to contribute I find it hard to find questions to answer. It's either a race to answer a trivial question quickly, or an obscure - possibly badly worded or incomplete - question tha…

this is my impression of SO too. If you want to gain reputation the most viable approach is to keep hitting F5 and answer simple questions before someone else and therefore it has become a race instead of a display of knowledge if it's reputation that you are hunting for. I believe it wasn't as hectic about one and a half year ago when I joined.

Except that the simple-question askers tend to be unconcerned with their acceptance rate.

Re: Poll: What is your current Stack Overflow reputation?

#67

Does anyone have the same problem with SO that I do? I'm an experienced dev in some general / mature technologies, mainly the C-like languages (I know C# inside out) but essentially, nothing too specialised. Anytime I've gone on SO to try to contribute I find it hard to find questions to answer. It's either a race to answer a trivial question quickly, or an obscure - possibly badly worded or incomplete - question tha…

I have never had that problem, and in general I don't think it's a real thing. IMO, this is the same sort of thinking that makes people say, "Oh, I had this business idea that I really liked, but I found out there was already a company doing what I wanted to do, so I went back to the drawing board."

There's nothing wrong with answering a question that already has answers if you feel like you still have something to add. Very often those first few rushed answers to a question are either wrong or confusing. Don't be one of those people. Just write an answer in your own time and it will get votes if it's any good. I've gone into questions where an answer is already accepted and highly upvoted, but I felt like the accepted answer was fundamentally on the wrong track, so I wrote my own and it got highly upvoted and accepted.

Re: Poll: What is your current Stack Overflow reputation?

#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reputation points in niche tags are definitely harder won than in the popular language tags, but (as you've demonstrated) it's easier to climb to the top of a niche tag and establish yourself as an expert. The real-world reputation you gain from that is more valuable than the reputation score on the site. Great job!

The high-traffic tags are full of low-quality or frequently asked questions. The amount of duplication in e.g. the C++ tag is staggering, but there doesn't seem to be a conscious effort to enforce a no-duplicate policy of any kind. Picking out worthwhile questions is difficult with all that noise. Worse, the "unanswered" section is full of questions that have been answered, the asker just never bothered to click acce…

> the "unanswered" section is full of questions that have been answered, the asker just never bothered to click accept.

Answered questions appear in Unanswered only if no answer has been voted up. If you see a question with a good answer, just vote it up and clear the clutter for the next person looking at the Unanswered section.

Re: Poll: What is your current Stack Overflow reputation?

#69
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I'm somewhere near 7. I find Stack Overflow extremely frustrating to use since I never seem to have enough reputation to do anything. If I remember correctly I can't even comment I gave up trying to contribute and I now only leech. I wish they'd fix it because more than once I had insightful things to say but it wasn't worth the hassle.

Judging by my reputation history the best way to reach the 50 points needed to leave comments is (perhaps unsurprisingly) to write some answers! I suggest you find some unanswered questions under tags with which you're familiar. I actually think the system works quite well; most SO comments are worth reading. One peculiarity of the privileges that I've found is that I'm not allowed to make edits with fewer than 6 cha…

Yeah, this thing with the typos must be improved. Quite often it's a matter of 1 or 2 characters.

Re: Poll: What is your current Stack Overflow reputation?

#70
I'm under 100. I love Stack Overflow, but the reason that my reputation is so low is that when I'm in software development mode, I'm usually so busy working that I don't have the time to (nor rarely think about) go back and answer some questions. Maybe one of these days when I have the time to step back and think about software development outside the context of a project, I'll go back and chip in. God knows I use it often enough every day.
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