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iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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What you can do as a consumer is.. not buy new iPhones? I don't mean as like a protest or anything. I mean just don't buy your iPhones new. They don't change much anymore, you can get caught out by this or Antennagate (or any other type of issue you get to encounter as a first mover), and the changes between years are genuinely minimal now. The iPhone came out in 2007. The iPhone 4 came out in 2010. The leap from the…

But what about the cool factor and showing off to your mates!?

That said I'm on a 2016 SE which is fine really.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Review the EOL spans between apple and android though. Apple is still releasing security updates for the 5S, a 10 year old handset. Android devices average 3-4 years before complete end of support. Maybe HN folks will go for alternate firmware, but I'm talking about manufacturer firmware for apples to apples comparison. That $300 increases to $600+ vs holding on to a ~$500 apple handset when looking at a 5+ years tim…

5 years on an iphone is a long time. There'll be a few screen replacements in that story.

Yeah been on iphones for years. Several screens and batteries. It's not a big deal - every year or two you go in a shop and say replace whatever and pay like £40 or 50. It's not like any hardwear lasts forever.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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post #89

What you can do as a consumer is.. not buy new iPhones? I don't mean as like a protest or anything. I mean just don't buy your iPhones new. They don't change much anymore, you can get caught out by this or Antennagate (or any other type of issue you get to encounter as a first mover), and the changes between years are genuinely minimal now. The iPhone came out in 2007. The iPhone 4 came out in 2010. The leap from the…

If you've got the cash buy the Merc, etc etc Iphone. Otherwise, spend $300 on a really solid android phone and then flex on being money smart.

You can also get a nice used iPhone for similar.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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post #165

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But fingerprint unlocking didn’t work with wet fingers, like outside on a rainy day. I find that face unlocking fails less often than fingerprint unlocking ever did. (Though outside on a sunny day can be challenging.)

That’s why I want both

The problem with both (as much as I want it too) is that it reduces security because the chance of a false positive (falsely identifying you as the owner) for either/or is always higher than the chance for a false positive for each individually

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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This is some kind of bug with throttling not being applied i guess, but I'd very much like Apple to test their devices outside a constant temperature dust free office. Right now it shuts down when it's too cold (and i mean like 0 C from personal experience, in my stopped car in winter), shuts down when it's too hot (car in summer). Keyboards fail if you dare to use them outdoors and are irreplaceable. Can they afford…

I have a BMW with only CarPlay (no Android Auto). Missus has an Android. So my phone was the GPS, even when she was driving. Because BMW only has Wireless Carplay the phone heats up like crazy. I don't understand why... my phone needs to be plugged in anyway because of the battery drain of the GPS and constant calculations of the screen. Why not utilize that as a means to send the screen data, allowing the WiFi chip…

funny enough Porsche has added an air conditioning vent for the phone charging area on some of the new modes

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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post #120

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The lack of usability outside California temperature ranges, for one?

Apple supports the published specs of an operating temp between 32° to 95° F (0° to 35° C). Your comment implying they don't test outside dust free "California temperatures" is simply not true.

there are many regions where the outside temp is below 32 degrees for large parts of the year

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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First of all, the phone does tell you which process is responsible for burning energy. It’s not necessarily the best but it’s there. If the phone is getting too hot to hold though, it’s not a software bug of something pinning the CPU. The OS should be thermal throttling well before that happens, and I’ve seen that happen on hot days (the phone goes from thermal throttling the CPU to a perma “this phone is too hot” bl…

Yes I agree. A phone should never be allowed to get unpleasant to touch. Maybe apple went to generous with their temp limit, or their sensor has too much play between devices. But also some programs shouldn't be allowed to go full blast when they are stuck in a self inflicted loop while waiting for something (instead of doing actual compute). And that is what I meant with activity monitor. If such behavior from popul…

> But also some programs shouldn't be allowed to go full blast when they are stuck in a self inflicted loop while waiting for something (instead of doing actual compute). And that is what I meant with activity monitor. If such behavior from popular software was more obvious, CPU waster could be helt accountable.

Have you solved the halting problem? Because that’s the only way generally to distinguish “actual” compute from stuck without forward progress. There are heuristic approaches obviously and it might be neat for Apple to try that out, but that means killing services randomly even though they may be behaving well. They do this for memory internally where you indicate expected ranges (eg when inactive it’s X and when I take out an “active” token it’s Y). Could try this for CPU consumption.

Generally though, iOS is carefully designed to not let anything run in the background except for OS services. The latter you can’t kill and former means that going to the homescreen is generally sufficient to kill whatever was misbehaving (microphone, navigation, and music let you run backgrounded but the former 2 have UI indicating this and the latter is usually audible and if any other app starts playing you stop so it’s not reliable)..

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

#188

What you can do as a consumer is.. not buy new iPhones? I don't mean as like a protest or anything. I mean just don't buy your iPhones new. They don't change much anymore, you can get caught out by this or Antennagate (or any other type of issue you get to encounter as a first mover), and the changes between years are genuinely minimal now. The iPhone came out in 2007. The iPhone 4 came out in 2010. The leap from the…

There was a sizable leap on cameras between the 13 pro max and 14 pro max. 12MP to 48MP.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

#189

What you can do as a consumer is.. not buy new iPhones? I don't mean as like a protest or anything. I mean just don't buy your iPhones new. They don't change much anymore, you can get caught out by this or Antennagate (or any other type of issue you get to encounter as a first mover), and the changes between years are genuinely minimal now. The iPhone came out in 2007. The iPhone 4 came out in 2010. The leap from the…

A 2.1x modifier isn't fair though, because life cycle is also reduced by 1/3.

Also, if I have a 15 Pro Max and it overheata, I'll simply go and have it replaced under sane consumer laws.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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post #61
post #5

Always the same every year. New iphone full of software and hardware issues, completely unusable according to the press. Keeps selling like hot pancakes, no one has any real problem with theirs (and if they do they get a replacement)

FWIW, this has been one of the worst seasons for mobile phone sales in a decade. [1] It may be telling if the latest from Apple will change that or not. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/17/global-smartphone-market-to-...

However as per your link, there is growth on the 'premium' side, of which the model in question is.
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