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Re: ChatGPT-4 significantly increased performance of business consultants

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Post by olalonde »

toxik wrote: post #83
olalonde wrote: post #50

HN is so bad at predictions. Just a few months ago HN was awash with comments that confidently claimed LLMs were no more than stochastic parrots and unlikely to amount to anything. > I can't help but think the next AI winter is around the corner. [0] Yeah, right. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23886325

That comment is going to go down as a HN hall of fame like that guy who said Dropbox is trivially replaced by rsync or something.

Probably. I have a habit of bookmarkung predictions I see on HN to revisit them later and most of those related to LLMs are aging very badly.

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Post by momirlan »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #116
wqtz wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My apologies. I agree. How long does it take for Ketamine to wear off? I only had a little bit after breakfast. I hope the edit button stays.

Maybe it was done on Ketamine, but the points are valid. Have seen it, consultants don't really bring 'new' or 'creative' solutions, they just help move the ideas around the calcified layers in the organization.

just said in 100x words...

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Post by vorticalbox »

cube00 wrote: post #54
vorticalbox wrote: post #3

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Somewhat agree, I know LLM have boosted my programming output mostly in writing jsdocs and pr descriptions. The things I don't really like doing

If your docs and PR descriptions can be generated off file diffs everyone's time could be better spent scanning the diff to come to the same conclusions. Consider using your PRs and docs to capture the answers to the usual why questions which LLM won't be able to do.

The why is largely in the ticket and the what in the pr.

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Post by pydry »

djtango wrote: post #104
highwaylights wrote: post #31

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1) Your ideas are bad. 2) Spreadsheets exist. 3) No-one cares about your marketing copy. 4) No-one finds your c-suite babble inspirational. This is almost perfect input to an LLM exactly because of how low value it is in the first place.

Ha it's fun to dunk on management consultants but I think the magic is they are like pop music producers. Somehow they're able to make the C suite hoover up LLM shovelware the same way top producers can take super obvious music and sell I V vi IV but when we try the same chords it's uninspired and no one wants to listen to it

The magic is in:

A) Forming cross company cliques (a lot of C suite is ex consultant and they scratch each others' backs).

B) ego stroking and typical sales ("this executive is a visionary who must be furnished with top quality steak and strippers")

C) Letting you know on the sly what their other customers are doing that seems to be working.

D) Providing industrial grade ass cover for decisions that the C suite want to make but are afraid to make by themselves (like layoffs).

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Post by jamiegreen »

pydry wrote: post #124
djtango wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha it's fun to dunk on management consultants but I think the magic is they are like pop music producers. Somehow they're able to make the C suite hoover up LLM shovelware the same way top producers can take super obvious music and sell I V vi IV but when we try the same chords it's uninspired and no one wants to listen to it

The magic is in: A) Forming cross company cliques (a lot of C suite is ex consultant and they scratch each others' backs). B) ego stroking and typical sales ("this executive is a visionary who must be furnished with top quality steak and strippers") C) Letting you know on the sly what their other customers are doing that seems to be working. D) Providing industrial grade ass cover for decisions that the C suite want…

Don’t underestimate the ass covering.

I recon 60% of management consulting work is just to ass cover for a director with no conviction

Re: ChatGPT-4 significantly increased performance of business consultants

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Post by pydry »

jamiegreen wrote: post #126
pydry wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The magic is in: A) Forming cross company cliques (a lot of C suite is ex consultant and they scratch each others' backs). B) ego stroking and typical sales ("this executive is a visionary who must be furnished with top quality steak and strippers") C) Letting you know on the sly what their other customers are doing that seems to be working. D) Providing industrial grade ass cover for decisions that the C suite want…

Don’t underestimate the ass covering. I recon 60% of management consulting work is just to ass cover for a director with no conviction

Yeah, I think that's the majority of the grunt work done by junior consultants.

I don't doubt that if the high level decision agreed upon is "more layoffs because AI" and they were asked for a 60 page report to justify it that ChatGPT would help inordinately in fleshing it out with something that sounds fairly plausible.

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Post by flir »

genman wrote: post #91
flir wrote: post #81

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So you ask for 20 ideas and filter. Even if you throw away 19, it's still useful.

Not necessarily if the remaining one idea is still garbage.

It's not. That's the purpose of filtering them.

Re: ChatGPT-4 significantly increased performance of business consultants

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Post by maxdoop »

Xcelerate wrote: post #88
olalonde wrote: post #50

HN is so bad at predictions. Just a few months ago HN was awash with comments that confidently claimed LLMs were no more than stochastic parrots and unlikely to amount to anything. > I can't help but think the next AI winter is around the corner. [0] Yeah, right. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23886325

We’re going to have legit AGI that can outperform humans in every way and HN will still find something to complain about. I love the tech news on here, but the constant cynicism on everything is exhausting.

“It’s AGI, but does it really understand anything? And I can’t even load the AGI info my Linux mainframe — how useless . Just another crypto wave.”
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