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Re: Insomnium – Local, privacy-focused fork of Insomnia API client

#41
I'm grateful for the original creator of Insomnia to have provided a tool that was quite nice and still light.

But what they did it's really bad in the sense of screwing users that trusted you once you get enough of them.

In addition, the fork is probably good, because for some months I was thinking that there are a few simple improvements that could be done to reap great benefits. And it should now be easier to do that. Also I'm quite sure that the current version was crippled in term of usability to support getting a paid license.

Re: Insomnium – Local, privacy-focused fork of Insomnia API client

#42

Please provide ASAR buildS.

Right now there is ASAR inside the MacOS build: "/Applications/Insomnium.app/Contents/Resources/app.asar"

(Windows & Ubuntu builds are on the way)

By default it uses esbuild-runner and not electron-forge so I'm not sure how straightward creating a standalone asar build would be. Would appreciate any pull-request though!

Re: Insomnium – Local, privacy-focused fork of Insomnia API client

#43

Thanks for this. Luckily I found out insomnia was (fully) enshittified through hacker news and not the forced update. I'll backup my files and move over to this fork soon.

Cool! The import/export should work with the new fork too! Let me know if you run into any problem!

Re: Insomnium – Local, privacy-focused fork of Insomnia API client

#44

My feature request: a way to generate curl commands, fetch, etc. Browsers can do it, why not a dedicated client for making http calls?

Ooh thanks for the pointer by @whiskeytuesday; just searched it up and found it in "packages/insomnia/src/common/hotkeys.ts".

So in version 2023.5.8 (and Insomnium), it is Ctrl+Shift+G on Window/Linux and Cmd+Shift+G on Mac. And it will open a window showing the curl code. I will definitely re-add this to the UI in Insomnium v0.2 to make it more obvious

(In v2023.5.8, this is supposed to show up after one opens "▼" and clicks "Generate Client Code" and then select "curl" but I think there is a bug and the full-list is not showing.)

Re: Insomnium – Local, privacy-focused fork of Insomnia API client

#45

Do you have a plan to maintain it long-term or is it just a fork in sake of a fork? Other than that, for UI/manual testing I'd recommend Restfox or Bruno and ezy for gRPC. Hurl and Step CI for automated testing Restfox: https://github.com/flawiddsouza/Restfox Bruno: https://github.com/usebruno/bruno ezy: https://github.com/getezy/ezy Step CI: https://github.com/stepci/stepci Hurl: https://github.com/Orange-OpenSource…

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Re: Insomnium – Local, privacy-focused fork of Insomnia API client

#46

What is it with generic HTTP clients and their data/account hunger? And why has no fully selfhosted team collaboration tool stood up?

Because they raised millions of dollars and it turns out most companies aren’t paying for enterprise licenses for what is essentially a UI wrapper on top of curl.

There are open source projects (like insomnia) that are “good enough”. I think it is a symptom of all of the free money in the past few years where SAAS companies were just buying each others products. Now that the money is drying up, companies need to continue to hit these insane ARR targets somehow.

Re: Insomnium – Local, privacy-focused fork of Insomnia API client

#47

My feature request: a way to generate curl commands, fetch, etc. Browsers can do it, why not a dedicated client for making http calls?

Ooh thanks for the pointer by @whiskeytuesday; just searched it up and found it in "packages/insomnia/src/common/hotkeys.ts". So in version 2023.5.8 (and Insomnium), it is Ctrl+Shift+G on Window/Linux and Cmd+Shift+G on Mac. And it will open a window showing the curl code. I will definitely re-add this to the UI in Insomnium v0.2 to make it more obvious (In v2023.5.8, this is supposed to show up after one opens "▼" a…

in insomnium v0.1.1, I've renamed it to "show CURL code, etc" and configured CURL to be the default (among all options I think this is what most people would use the most too). You would see it after opening the dropdown menu "▼" besides "Send".

Re: Insomnium – Local, privacy-focused fork of Insomnia API client

#48

Hey everyone.. wish we were here discussing something more positive. however... I happen to know that the Kong CTO is extremely obsessed with GitHub stars and vanity metrics so he can impress investors (e.g. check out his twitter to see him bragging about star counts). The best thing you can do to get Kong's attention on how horribly they have handled this situation is... unstar https://github.com/kong/insomnia ...an…

perhaps more heartbreaking is a tweet from the original creator of Insomnia[1] (who sold it to Kong some years ago) which reminds me of the time a year ago when Insomnia forced the GitHub stars count to be prominently placed in the product, but explicitly without any way to disable it[2]. It was later disabled but just for paying users.. You can see the CTO arguing with people in that thread about it. 1: https://twit…

I wanted to thank you for pointing out that gschier sold Insomnia a while ago.

My interactions with gschier on some issues/pull requests many years ago were really positive and it's only now clicked why the direction the project has taken in the past couple of years has been such a departure from those early experiences.

Re: Insomnium – Local, privacy-focused fork of Insomnia API client

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think their model is acceptable and sustainable. It's MIT licensed, and they make money on the self-hosted enterprise edition that gives you SSO, permissions, audits, etc. Recently switched to it after going through most of the alternatives, because it has a clean UX, works on every OS without install, and has all of the features I need.

I'm gonna be a cynic here. Maybe they have a sustainable model _now_, but there is no telling for how long the VCs will be happy with the revenue this model generates. Somewhere down the line they might want to see a better ROI that involves converting Hoppscotch to a cloud-only app just like Postman and Insomnia

The VC is OSS Capital, so I'm not too worried about this happening.
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