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iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Post by elesiuta »

highwaylights wrote: post #75

What you can do as a consumer is.. not buy new iPhones? I don't mean as like a protest or anything. I mean just don't buy your iPhones new. They don't change much anymore, you can get caught out by this or Antennagate (or any other type of issue you get to encounter as a first mover), and the changes between years are genuinely minimal now. The iPhone came out in 2007. The iPhone 4 came out in 2010. The leap from the…

> I get that they're not the same device, but is it really 2.1x the device that the 13 is?

It looks like you're using an average lifetime of 9 years for the 2.1x factor. I rarely see phones past 6 though and that's approximately how long they receive updates for.

I've also never seen a used iPhone that cheap where I am. Here a new 15 max is $1450 and a used 13 max is $1000.

Using a 6 year life:

$1000 / (6-2) = $250

$1450 / 6 = $242

So if you use a phone to the 6 year point, you are paying less for a better device, and without any unknown damage or wear. Migrating less often to a new device is also a small time saver. Even if you go to 9 years, the new iPhone is only 1.13x more.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Post by WirelessGigabit »

nottorp wrote: post #80

This is some kind of bug with throttling not being applied i guess, but I'd very much like Apple to test their devices outside a constant temperature dust free office. Right now it shuts down when it's too cold (and i mean like 0 C from personal experience, in my stopped car in winter), shuts down when it's too hot (car in summer). Keyboards fail if you dare to use them outdoors and are irreplaceable. Can they afford…

I have a BMW with only CarPlay (no Android Auto). Missus has an Android. So my phone was the GPS, even when she was driving.

Because BMW only has Wireless Carplay the phone heats up like crazy. I don't understand why... my phone needs to be plugged in anyway because of the battery drain of the GPS and constant calculations of the screen. Why not utilize that as a means to send the screen data, allowing the WiFi chip to be almost turned off.

And it gets worse if you use the charging pad in the car. Charging pad + Carplay is useless.

Now she has an iPhone too and now the driver's phone is the GPS. But still, when driving, I need to put mine plugged in, under the seat to ensure it remains within temperature specs.

And because of that I forget it every time, no problem, but when I get back to the car it is always overheated.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Post by concinds »

uuddlrlrbaba wrote: post #92
concinds wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's one way to stop it: online culture must shift toward blaming early adopters for not waiting, instead of blaming companies for bad QA. TotalBiscuit pushed that for game preorders, and it worked, preorders declined. Change always starts from below, and idle BigCorp criticism has no effect if people still give their money blindly.

They are the same thing? If a majority refuses to buy new products due to bad QA it does effectively blame the company for bad QA

The point is many are blaming [BigCorp] while still consistently being early-adopters of their products.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Post by nerdjon »

gdubs wrote: post #78
nerdjon wrote: post #55

So I have the iPhone 15 Pro Max. I have for sure had a few times that it got really hot, particularly when I was restoring it and it was doing a lot of background tasks. BUT so has every other single iPhone I have had since at least the X but I am pretty sure going farther back. There were always moments that it got hot and I remember it would always happen when I was first setting it up. For me at least I don't thin…

I have a FineWoven case on my 15 Pro Max and, just adding to the anecdata here, have not had a single thermal issue. The only time it warmed up was during the initial data transfer. I'm pushing the phone with a lot of cinematic video recording, etc – remarkably cool. I watched this story blossom out of a few social accounts I had to mute because it started to feel like they really wanted to get likes on 'iPhone 15 Pr…

I agree. Especially since this can make very easy clickbait headlines.

I mean it has blown up enough that even my mom texted me “your dad read an article about the iPhone 15 heating up”. Lovely.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Post by WirelessGigabit »

NBJack wrote: post #61
fawnj wrote: post #5

Always the same every year. New iphone full of software and hardware issues, completely unusable according to the press. Keeps selling like hot pancakes, no one has any real problem with theirs (and if they do they get a replacement)

FWIW, this has been one of the worst seasons for mobile phone sales in a decade. [1] It may be telling if the latest from Apple will change that or not. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/17/global-smartphone-market-to-...

In reality the only upgrade from the 14 Pro Max to this one is 3x to 5x zoom and USB-C.

And while I absolutely love USB-C, I do have a whole collection of lightning cables. Something in my way of using my iPhone(s) make pin 4 wear out insanely fast. Maybe it's because I carry it with me in the shower / hot tub.

Not sure how the USB-C variant deals with the pitting.

The button on the side and the titanium are a change, but not an upgrade. In fact, I would say the button is a downgrade from the old rocker. You could, in your pocket flip the rocker and know your phone was now on silent mode. Now you have to rely on vibration patterns.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Post by ErneX »

haswell wrote: post #20

I wonder how much of this is just caused by the higher workloads people put on their new phones just after purchase: restoring from backup, installing/trying new apps, testing out that new GPU, Photos doing a new classification pass on the existing library, and just a generally higher than average workload for the first few weeks of ownership. It seems like there are always a flurry of reports of issues like this on…

I thought the same. I noticed mine getting hotter than usual (compared to my 13 Pro) the first couple of days or so, it’s been fine since then.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Post by WirelessGigabit »

appleskeptic wrote: post #30
woah wrote: post #26

Why is weight even a concern? Thinness I get because that makes a real difference in your pocket, but what's the point of reducing the weight a tiny bit?

To be fair, some ways of holding the weight of the phone in one hand, e.g. resting the weight on your pinky finger along bottom edge, can cause hand injury/RSI. So weight isn’t a totally solved problem.

Try to get one of those holders that magnetically click to your iPhone. I don't want to say the brand, but something with socket. They are an RSI-saver.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Post by cageface »

repelsteeltje wrote: post #35
wilsonnb3 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mostly because they insisted on making the Pro models with stainless steel instead of aluminum, which made them way heavier for no reason. The 34 gram difference between the iPhone 14 and 14 pro is very noticable in the hand. So now they have introduced the titanium frame as a solution to their self-inflicted problem, which still isn't as light as the aluminum non-pro iPhones.

I hear plastic is cheap, light and durable too. That would solve it. I suppose being design sensitive folks, as many Apple customers are, you could argue that plastic looks cheap. But then, most iPhones these day have a case that completely hides those stainless steel/aluminum/titanium/glass parts anyway...

I'm a huge fan of plastic phones. Lighter, cheaper and who can tell the difference if it's in a case?

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Post by slantedview »

haswell wrote: post #20

I wonder how much of this is just caused by the higher workloads people put on their new phones just after purchase: restoring from backup, installing/trying new apps, testing out that new GPU, Photos doing a new classification pass on the existing library, and just a generally higher than average workload for the first few weeks of ownership. It seems like there are always a flurry of reports of issues like this on…

Some of the reports of overheating are coming from very experienced tech reviewers, and it's happening at times when the phone is being used for basic stuff, like music streaming, without any heavy work.
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