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iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

#31
A related issue exists with M1/M2 Pro and Max chips in their laptops. They do not overheat (unless you're in a hot environment) since they have fans and seem to have included enough cooling for these chips, but you do not get the miraculous battery life with these that you do with the lighter versions.

I guess they made the chip and RAM a lot bigger but didn't make the battery much bigger. The battery life is still decent (4-8 hours depending on work load) but not amazing.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Why is weight even a concern? Thinness I get because that makes a real difference in your pocket, but what's the point of reducing the weight a tiny bit?

Mostly because they insisted on making the Pro models with stainless steel instead of aluminum, which made them way heavier for no reason. The 34 gram difference between the iPhone 14 and 14 pro is very noticable in the hand.

So now they have introduced the titanium frame as a solution to their self-inflicted problem, which still isn't as light as the aluminum non-pro iPhones.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that the temperature you feel on your hand is not necessarily the temperature the chip is operating under. If your hand is warm that, ironically, means the heat is dissipating effectively. If it's not dissipating, then your hand will remain cool because all the heat is still on the chip. So unless Apple gives you a way to read the chip's own temperature sensor data, what you feel holding it isn't that…

Normies care about the fact that it's uncomfortably warm to hold, not whether the CPU is hot or not.

They do Until they don’t

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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post #26

Why is weight even a concern? Thinness I get because that makes a real difference in your pocket, but what's the point of reducing the weight a tiny bit?

Mostly because they insisted on making the Pro models with stainless steel instead of aluminum, which made them way heavier for no reason. The 34 gram difference between the iPhone 14 and 14 pro is very noticable in the hand. So now they have introduced the titanium frame as a solution to their self-inflicted problem, which still isn't as light as the aluminum non-pro iPhones.

I hear plastic is cheap, light and durable too. That would solve it.

I suppose being design sensitive folks, as many Apple customers are, you could argue that plastic looks cheap. But then, most iPhones these day have a case that completely hides those stainless steel/aluminum/titanium/glass parts anyway...

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that the temperature you feel on your hand is not necessarily the temperature the chip is operating under. If your hand is warm that, ironically, means the heat is dissipating effectively. If it's not dissipating, then your hand will remain cool because all the heat is still on the chip. So unless Apple gives you a way to read the chip's own temperature sensor data, what you feel holding it isn't that…

Normies care about the fact that it's uncomfortably warm to hold, not whether the CPU is hot or not.

I do think "normies" care about the CPU is hot or not, but they do so indirectly, as the phone will start throttling the CPU when it reaches a certain temperature, so the phone will start feeling laggy.

If you've ever tried to play a game on the iPhone/doing something else CPU/GPU heavy while outside in the sun on a hot day, you'll know what I mean, the performance is much worse.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Thermal Conductivity

I wonder if this is related to the use of Titanium and the poor thermal conductivity of Titanium (17 W/m-K) vs. Aluminum (210 W/m-K).

Aluminum dissipates heat more than 10x better than titanium.

https://waykenrm.com/blogs/titanium-vs-aluminum/#:~:text=All....

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EDIT: I no longer think it's thermal conductivity due to the change in metals. See below.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37705152

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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Thermal Conductivity I wonder if this is related to the use of Titanium and the poor thermal conductivity of Titanium (17 W/m-K) vs. Aluminum (210 W/m-K). Aluminum dissipates heat more than 10x better than titanium. https://waykenrm.com/blogs/titanium-vs-aluminum/#:~:text=All... . --- EDIT: I no longer think it's thermal conductivity due to the change in metals. See below. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3770515…

The previous generation of iPhone Pros used stainless steel instead of Titanium.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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post #38

Thermal Conductivity I wonder if this is related to the use of Titanium and the poor thermal conductivity of Titanium (17 W/m-K) vs. Aluminum (210 W/m-K). Aluminum dissipates heat more than 10x better than titanium. https://waykenrm.com/blogs/titanium-vs-aluminum/#:~:text=All... . --- EDIT: I no longer think it's thermal conductivity due to the change in metals. See below. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3770515…

The previous generation of iPhone Pros used stainless steel instead of Titanium.

Which, at 15 W/mk, is even worse than titanium.

Re: iPhone 15: users of Pro and Pro Max models complain of overheating issues

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GSMArena bought two iPhone 15 Pro Max from different retailers to test the overheating issue and they were unable to replicate it. > Lastly, we did read reports of overheating iPhones, some during fast charging. For this review, we used two iPhone 15 Pro Max units, obtained from different retailers, and neither of those became unbearably hot even after an hour of GPU stress testing. Warm, rather unpleasantly (but not…

> GSMArena bought two iPhone 15 Pro Max from different retailers to test the overheating issue and they were unable to replicate it. Did anyone manage to "replicate" the explosion of a Galaxy Note 7 under controlled usage? Assuming no one did, what conclusion wiuld we draw from s failure to replicate on n=2?

Failure to replicate doesn't mean that it's not an issue. They even acknowledged that it has happened to other people.

It's just another data point.

IMO, it sounds like it's a real issue, but not one that affects the majority of users.

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