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WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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I’m confused, none of what you’re describing is part of the article.

It's responding to the scenario described in GGP.

Ah, does that hack still work though? I would be surprised if it did, since the story was from years ago.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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I used to do this on airplanes and in hotels. I had more success in hotels, because there was less chance the other person was using it at the time and less chance of getting kicked off. There was another little hack that I used as a little kid. Remember when airlines would sell or rent special headphones to watch inflight movies? The port was just two holes beside each other and the plug was two tubes. Before a flig…

How long ago was this? 20 years ago, all I saw were dual mono bayonet jacks you'd need an adapter for to plug in normal headphones, but straws would get you nowhere. I was curious so I searched: https://simpleflying.com/inflight-entertainment-headphones-e... - pneumatic headphones from the 1960s were used on Delta as late as 2003, but electronic headsets debuted on 767 in 1982. Apparently the dual mono jacks are to d…

Then why isn't at least one of those jacks a TRS so you can use normal headphones?

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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Do you know why they let SSH through?

The rule is probably something like "if !paid: deny tcp 80, deny tcp 443". (Hopefully they got UDP for HTTP/3.) I suppose this has the desired effect of captive portals (break GMail until you pay), without having to field support requests from geeks ("I paid but SSH doesn't work, refund me"). I think their plan is that whatever obscure app you're using negotiates over HTTPS, but then actually transfers the data over…

Whoever set that up probably wanted it for their own use, both for easily managing the system when they need to work on it, and for themselves when they're travelling anywhere.

If I'm ever in charge of rigging up a captive portal system like this, I'm certainly going to do something similar if I can get away with it. Maybe even put a hint on how to bypass in the portal's page source. "ssh works on port 46969, don't tell anyone." > rot13 > base64 -> "cache-burst-ID: ZmZ1IGpiZXhmIGJhIGNiZWcgNDY5NjksIHFiYSdnIGdyeXkgbmFsYmFyLgo="

May be too obscure though.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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I used to do the same thing at hotels. Still often works. nmap -sn 192.168.0.1-255 To find everyone on the network, then start spoofing each of their MACs until you find one that works

I should probably know the answer, but what happens when two devices have the same MAC address?

ISTR SunOS4 panic if it saw duplicate IP address on the network.

sync boot

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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Yes. You often also have to pay for parking in many places. The price you see online is rarely what you pay for. But that's part of the culture, it's the same for restaurants, online purchases etc.

The sticker price is almost never what you pay, since tax is almost never included. Not sure how or when that norm diverged from the Euro one.

I think the EU law on that is the "Price indication directive", and AFAIK, it's been around since 1998. (may have replaced an earlier directive, my google-fu is lacking)

I think the norm is to show whatever price you want, with some countries banning that for fairly obvious reasons.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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I have read somewhere that so much precision could actually be dangerous in some circumstances. This is because this way, if a pilot goes 3000 ft for instance, it will be exactly 3000 ft, if another pilot also wants to go 3000 ft on a collision trajectory, it will be a guaranteed collision. When altitudes are not that accurate, there is a higher chance it being just a near miss. The solution, I think, was to simply a…

Yes, it's called the navigation paradox, and it mostly came about with the advent of GPS. It's the reason we now have what's called "strategic lateral offset procedure," or SLOP, whereby aircraft on heavily trafficked oceanic routes fly zero, one, or two miles off the centerline, randomly chosen.

This is really interesting. But it seems like it could make collisions more likely, and the better solution would be separate corridors for east vs west traffic. Are there really 5 bidirectional lanes?

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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I used to do this on airplanes and in hotels. I had more success in hotels, because there was less chance the other person was using it at the time and less chance of getting kicked off. There was another little hack that I used as a little kid. Remember when airlines would sell or rent special headphones to watch inflight movies? The port was just two holes beside each other and the plug was two tubes. Before a flig…

How long ago was this? 20 years ago, all I saw were dual mono bayonet jacks you'd need an adapter for to plug in normal headphones, but straws would get you nowhere. I was curious so I searched: https://simpleflying.com/inflight-entertainment-headphones-e... - pneumatic headphones from the 1960s were used on Delta as late as 2003, but electronic headsets debuted on 767 in 1982. Apparently the dual mono jacks are to d…

Fairly sure I still saw pneumatic ones sometime in the 2000s in Australia.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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post #560

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The sticker price is almost never what you pay, since tax is almost never included. Not sure how or when that norm diverged from the Euro one.

I’m imaging it’s because states and even cities can have differing sales tax rates. Hard to advertise to a wide audience when the final price after tax is one of 12 different prices depending on where they live.

That's a weak justification to apply to prices listed right where the product is sold. Like, if one uses a sticker gun to put a price tag on a product itself.

I don't know of any US businesses other than waffle house that always include all taxes in the listed price, however.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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I was just thinking that you could take a picture from the window and then tie the GPS coordinates to the image with the output from that JSON. Kind of handy.

If you have location permissions enabled in your camera app, the image's exif data will have the coordinates in it. (US Civilian GPS units are prohibited from working above 60,000 ft above sea level and 1,000 knots due to ITAR munitions export restrictions.)

I think the "and" in that sentence used to be implemented as an "or" in the days before everyone's phones had GPS in them. So you'd need to power cycle the device before it'd work again. Now most devices need to hit both limits at the same time before refusing to work.
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