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Disclosure of Pirates’ Identities “Compatible with EU Privacy Laws”

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Re: Disclosure of Pirates’ Identities “Compatible with EU Privacy Laws”

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Post by usrbinbash »

knallfrosch wrote: post #2

And I thought the "pirates" referred to armed people in boats capturing cargo ships, not copyright infringers.

It started as a scare tactic that goes back all the way to when people "pirated" music by recording radio on tape.

The idea was to turn public opinion against copyright infringement by using terminology associated with violent crimes, such as piracy and robbery.

Ofc it backfired spectacularly, with the "pirating" community adopting the term and reveling in it. Who could have known that using a term that the general public immediately associates positively with countless novels, movies and other works of fiction, radiating a flair of adventure, swashbuckler charm and the freedom of the carribean seas, would fail to turn public opinion against something :D

Re: Disclosure of Pirates’ Identities “Compatible with EU Privacy Laws”

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Post by kyriakos »

Mindwipe wrote: post #8
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #7

The hypocrisy here is amusing. Interestingly also that piracy is de facto legal in many EU countries, at least as far as individuals downloading.

No it isn't.

Mostly authorities ignore it but probably is not legal.

Re: Disclosure of Pirates’ Identities “Compatible with EU Privacy Laws”

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Post by MauranKilom »

Assuming there is no material misrepresentation of how this system operates, I would find it hard to argue that it is disproportionate to keep record of an IP address that somehow makes publicly available a file with copyrighted contents.

I too would, from a pure self-interest perspective, like to share e.g. media with impunity, but for the sake of evaluating this opinion it's not reasonable to assume a position where copyright doesn't exist.

I'd be interested in arguments against this opinion.

Re: Disclosure of Pirates’ Identities “Compatible with EU Privacy Laws”

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Post by treyd »

kyriakos wrote: post #12
Mindwipe wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it isn't.

Mostly authorities ignore it but probably is not legal.

Because prosecutors realize it generally looks unpopular and there's much better things they could be doing with their time in favor of the public interest.

Re: Disclosure of Pirates’ Identities “Compatible with EU Privacy Laws”

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Post by OfSanguineFire »

usrbinbash wrote: post #11
knallfrosch wrote: post #2

And I thought the "pirates" referred to armed people in boats capturing cargo ships, not copyright infringers.

It started as a scare tactic that goes back all the way to when people "pirated" music by recording radio on tape. The idea was to turn public opinion against copyright infringement by using terminology associated with violent crimes, such as piracy and robbery. Ofc it backfired spectacularly, with the "pirating" community adopting the term and reveling in it. Who could have known that using a term that the general p…

The use of "pirate" for copyright infringement goes back to at least the 19th century and was originally used of books. By the time taping off radio started, the term was already well entrenched.

Re: Disclosure of Pirates’ Identities “Compatible with EU Privacy Laws”

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

jeltz wrote: post #15
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #7

The hypocrisy here is amusing. Interestingly also that piracy is de facto legal in many EU countries, at least as far as individuals downloading.

What hypocrisy? There are almost no comments here.

Article/story, not comments.

Re: Disclosure of Pirates’ Identities “Compatible with EU Privacy Laws”

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

Mindwipe wrote: post #8
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #7

The hypocrisy here is amusing. Interestingly also that piracy is de facto legal in many EU countries, at least as far as individuals downloading.

No it isn't.

In many EU countries it's decriminalized, hence me saying it was de facto legal.

Re: Disclosure of Pirates’ Identities “Compatible with EU Privacy Laws”

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #7

The hypocrisy here is amusing. Interestingly also that piracy is de facto legal in many EU countries, at least as far as individuals downloading.

>piracy is de facto legal in many EU countries, at least as far as individuals downloading

It's not legal, just the police in most countries have bigger fish to fry than people downloading mp3s and blu-ray rips.

But, try pirating content in Germany and you're guarantee to receive an angry letter with a fine from some crooked law office, threatening to sue you on behalf of the IP holder if you don't pay the fine. It's basically a legal mob shakedown.

Granted, this is more of German thing, as German laws makes it the European stronghold of copyright/IP trolls, while most of Europe doesn't bring out the jackboots for small-time internet piracy the way Germany does.

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