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Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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What is the meaning of all of this? Is this just anti-social behavior seeping into city councils? Is there some political motive here?

"If you want to destroy the spirit of a country don't kill its people, burn its forests, fell the trees, and destroy its prized cultural artifacts" The oldest trick in the book of war

Or, more likely, just a city council or urban planning department that doesn't care about nature conservation.

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

#172
A similar thing happens in the name of public interest on a regular basis.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tears-rage-hs2-killing...

The immature, probably ill-raised boy who perpetrated this 1-tree act at Hadrian's Wall - a boy not even old enough to understand what "heritage" truly is - becomes the symbol of hatred around the world, and the full-grown man upon whose orders dozens and hundreds are killed with as-near-equally-thin-justification as to not matter, gets to be (then) Prime Minister, lauded high class high-table sitter of the world, paid 5-figures to talk for an hour, for the rest of his life.

The rage we should expend upon the latter, but which we are societally programmed to simply accept as compromise, instead gets emotionally expended upon stupid little 1-hit-wonders like this young kid at Hadrian's - as a symbol of all that's wrong with the world, and in lieu of actually expending our deep displeasure with those who make such acts systemic, everyday business.

We have it backwards.

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

#173
post #71

I mean, it's beautiful but also another reason I'm disappointed. I walked Hadrian's Wall a few years ago in a very hot (for the UK) summer, and there were very few places some days to get shade and have a rest. The tree provided lovely shade and lots of people chose to sit there to relax, cool down, and have a drink.

The sad thing about this tree is that there aren't hundreds more!

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

#174
post #54

So? It's just a tree, why should we care about it just because a random person planted a seed a hundred years ago?

Ah yes a member of the ever growing "why should I care about anything unless it personally effects me" crowd. May as well proudly bear a tatoo of the word selfish on your forehead. I imagine if someone chopped down a protected tree in an act of vandalism that you grew up seeing every day, carved your names in, or proposed under suddenly you would be filled with outrage after personally being effected.

wouldn't care, I know it's just a tree.

circle of life.

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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post #154

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Unless this particular tree has an identifier of SYT-786B, and tree SYT-7868 was slated for felling, in which case this could have been an error, although you'd expect someone to have double-checked given the prominence of this specific tree.

If you’re from a 70 mile radius of that tree, you know its significance. Nobody would drive up and say “wow ok yeah gonna cut down this tree I don’t know what it is”.

“Hi Boss, I got my work list for today and it says to chop down the sycamore gap tree, are you sure this is right?”

“Hmm, odd, I would have thought there’d have been a separate heads-up on that. Let me check… yep, that’s what it says in the system, guess I must have missed the memo. We’re already behind on the monthly target, see if you can squeeze in three more by the end of the day.”

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes a member of the ever growing "why should I care about anything unless it personally effects me" crowd. May as well proudly bear a tatoo of the word selfish on your forehead. I imagine if someone chopped down a protected tree in an act of vandalism that you grew up seeing every day, carved your names in, or proposed under suddenly you would be filled with outrage after personally being effected.

wouldn't care, I know it's just a tree. circle of life.

How about the fact that other people cared and were upset? You can dismiss a tree's feelings on account of it not having any. But are you dismissing the (presumably) genuine distress of multiple people?

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

#177

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So potentially, "someone who just watched a youtube video on how to fell a tree"?

That's what I would suspect. Someone who did enough research but hadn't really done it before. But! It also looks pretty clean for a "first try" so maybe the paint is something else.

I have felled a couple of old apple trees in my garden with a chainsaw after watching a "few Youtube videos".

The trunks were maybe 30 to 40cm in diameter so obviously much smaller trees than that sycamore (well apple trees for a start and much younger) and I can tell you that this is one of those things that looks easy when you watch but not so much when you do it. Handling a chainsaw to be able to make clean, straight cut through takes practice and you need a good chainsaw as well.

So IMHO there is no chance in hell that the sycamore was felled by an amateur.

I believe that one has to be at least 16 to become a trainee so maybe that 16 year old has received previous training and/or his family works in the field. Or he didn't do it himself.

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

#178

local landowner* was getting cross with all the people coming to see it. I've had a couple of run ins with them walking the dog there * edit: i mentioned this on another forum and was corrected- the land is owned by the National Trust, my run ins were probably with a tennant farmer.

Reminds me of a wonky pub that inconveniently burnt down recently.

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

#180
post #56

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That’s the expected British understatement, it’s just how the police communicates there.

I think it's the correct terminology here. The police believe and suspect, the court try and prove. Arrests are always made 'on suspicion of'.

Yes, if only because that'd be libel outherwise unless the person is ultimately convicted.

In addition, an arrest does not guarantee that the person will even be charged.

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