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Discord as a filehost will no longer be possible by the end of the year

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Re: Discord as a filehost will no longer be possible by the end of the year

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

throwanem wrote: post #16
ehnto wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree and hadn't really considered the Very Online but not technical as a cohort before. Perhaps in contrast to people who are online but not "online natives". Discord has become a defacto platform for online native communities, in the same way many of us treated IRC. It's really the same atmosphere, any of you old nerds yearning for the IRC golden years should try and find a discord server to join.

Just in time for the rugpull that became inevitable the day money stopped being free? No thank you.

ZIRP rules everything around me.

Ruled… and hopefully not returning too soon.

Re: Discord as a filehost will no longer be possible by the end of the year

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Post by sjkna »

ZeWaka wrote: post #7
sb057 wrote: post #2

>while they are not currently necessary to view the file, they will be by the end of the year, assuming nothing changes. What makes the author think something is changing?

These were added extremely recently with no announcement.

Okay, I know what the tokens do. But how does this guy know they'll start working by the end of the year?

Re: Discord as a filehost will no longer be possible by the end of the year

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Post by bombcar »

tmpX7dMeXU wrote: post #11
ehnto wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree and hadn't really considered the Very Online but not technical as a cohort before. Perhaps in contrast to people who are online but not "online natives". Discord has become a defacto platform for online native communities, in the same way many of us treated IRC. It's really the same atmosphere, any of you old nerds yearning for the IRC golden years should try and find a discord server to join.

As an ex heavy IRC user, I couldn’t possibly disagree more with this. Not even for the same “free! libre!” reasons as the other replier. It is just at its core still a gamer chat platform heavily misappropriated for other purposes, with a UX that will spare no opportunity to make you aware of that.

I also feel people treated irc much more ephemeral, important things were in a forum post or a bot.

Discord is just treated as the sum repository of all for way too many people.

Re: Discord as a filehost will no longer be possible by the end of the year

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Post by personjerry »

treyd wrote: post #9
ehnto wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree and hadn't really considered the Very Online but not technical as a cohort before. Perhaps in contrast to people who are online but not "online natives". Discord has become a defacto platform for online native communities, in the same way many of us treated IRC. It's really the same atmosphere, any of you old nerds yearning for the IRC golden years should try and find a discord server to join.

> any of you old nerds yearning for the IRC golden years should try and find a discord server to join. If we're still on IRC then we mostly would clearly have an objection to using discord for the very many legitimate reasons to object to it, such as the mass data collection, phone number requirements for many users, lack of control / selfhosting capability, or just general requirement to use (very heavy) nonlibre so…

why would being on IRC be synonymous with any of that? maybe people on IRC just want to hang out and chat with people?

Re: Discord as a filehost will no longer be possible by the end of the year

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Post by d3w4s9 »

unleaded wrote: post #5
spondylosaurus wrote: post #3

People are using Discord as a file hosting service a la Imgur? Yikes. Hard to blame Discord for cracking down on that, considering it's not a service they intentionally offer.

you can upload any file below 25mb for free unless it's malware, it's a direct link that works everywhere, and it's quick because you always have discord open. if it's something not too important why wouldn't you?

Because it could go away any day? And is "always have discord open" a reasonable general assumption?

Re: Discord as a filehost will no longer be possible by the end of the year

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Post by koolba »

aquova wrote: post #19

> if you haven’t noticed, copying a link for a file now appends special parameters to the end. these are a request signature, which indicates a specific request for that file. this request will expires after a few hours, so files will no longer be permanently available through a specific url. I went and looked at some Discord image URLs, and sure enough there are now "ex", "is" and "hm" fields. While I'm sure removin…

Except it’s the same memes over and over again so if there’s even the simplest deduplication their storage costs would be orders of magnitude less.

How many new images are actually uploaded daily? It has to be tiny compared to the same reaction gifs used over and over again.

Re: Discord as a filehost will no longer be possible by the end of the year

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Post by kr0bat »

How many major social media sites try to prevent this behavior? Facebook links expire[1]; but Reddit, Tumblr, and Twitter all generate seemingly permanent image links.

Also semi-related fun fact, I think most sites lack authorization checks when accessing images via direct urls. A logged out user can follow direct image links from private accounts/servers/subs on all these sites, including Discord. Not like that means much of anything security wise (if you have the url you likely had access to the image)

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30477877/facebook-image-...

Re: Discord as a filehost will no longer be possible by the end of the year

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Post by burnished »

treyd wrote: post #9
ehnto wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree and hadn't really considered the Very Online but not technical as a cohort before. Perhaps in contrast to people who are online but not "online natives". Discord has become a defacto platform for online native communities, in the same way many of us treated IRC. It's really the same atmosphere, any of you old nerds yearning for the IRC golden years should try and find a discord server to join.

> any of you old nerds yearning for the IRC golden years should try and find a discord server to join. If we're still on IRC then we mostly would clearly have an objection to using discord for the very many legitimate reasons to object to it, such as the mass data collection, phone number requirements for many users, lack of control / selfhosting capability, or just general requirement to use (very heavy) nonlibre so…

At the end of the day its just a chat protocol, not a lifestyle.

Re: Discord as a filehost will no longer be possible by the end of the year

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Post by codetrotter »

kr0bat wrote: post #27

How many major social media sites try to prevent this behavior? Facebook links expire[1]; but Reddit, Tumblr, and Twitter all generate seemingly permanent image links. Also semi-related fun fact, I think most sites lack authorization checks when accessing images via direct urls. A logged out user can follow direct image links from private accounts/servers/subs on all these sites, including Discord. Not like that mean…

> Tumblr […] generate seemingly permanent image links

They did, and people hosted a bunch of things there, and then they changed the ToS to not allow NSFW stuff.

What happened to all of the NSFW images people hosted on Tumblr?

I assume they were all deleted with the ToS change.

Re: Discord as a filehost will no longer be possible by the end of the year

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Post by unleaded »

d3w4s9 wrote: post #25
unleaded wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you can upload any file below 25mb for free unless it's malware, it's a direct link that works everywhere, and it's quick because you always have discord open. if it's something not too important why wouldn't you?

Because it could go away any day? And is "always have discord open" a reasonable general assumption?

yes for many young online people but probably not most hacker news users. and if it's worked for 8 years i don't think it's unreasonable to think it'll work for a few more
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