I'm sick to death of Android • Hacker News Board

Re: I'm sick to death of Android

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Post by Radzell » Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 5:11 AM UTC

johngalt wrote: post #2

Rational carriers and android hardware manufacturers would understand what's at stake here. Do they really want to hand the entire mobile device market to Apple because of a few updates?

I doubt that would ever happen typically technology runs a two party system. I would more look to windows phone 7 catching up. The only saving grace of android is that I would say Java developer slightly outnumber C# developers. If they don't change soon and basically actually try administrating the system it might come to an end. Google needs to hiring someone primarily for administrating android not just people to innovate for it.

Re: I'm sick to death of Android

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Post by jay_kyburz » Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 5:13 AM UTC

I don't understand why I can't just install any OS on my mobile computer (phone/tablet) the same way I can install any OS on my desktop computer.

Please somebody, create a start up or two to solve this problem!

Think big, be the next Microsoft!

Re: I'm sick to death of Android

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Post by Radzell » Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 5:14 AM UTC

damian2000 wrote: post #8

If you want an update just root it download the update. People who are wanting the latest greatest incremental release are usually a bit techie anyway, so its not that hard is it?

This is true techy people have this option, but google needs to think ourside this market. Android needs to move beyond the 18-20 year old college or college bound male demographic if it's going to grow. It needs to simple enough for your grandma run it. Your phone should update with the latest features as soon as they are available not a year down the line. It's like playing roulette when buying a phone trying to find out which OEM will update there OS on time and which will not.

Re: I'm sick to death of Android

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Post by sukuriant » Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 5:16 AM UTC

Am I the only one that's happy with their Android phone? Sure, I wish I could get cyangen mod on my phone, but oh well that I can't. I prefer the experience far over iOS and others. I like being able to change various aspects of my phone without jail breaking it. I like the user experience vastly more than iPhone's, primarily because of that back button. And, even on my old Motorola Droid, I never saw a "your phone can't support this app" problem.

Re: I'm sick to death of Android

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Post by cageface » Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 5:17 AM UTC

I picked up a Galaxy S2 recently because a client asked me to do an Android port of an iOS app.

As a communication device, I think it easily trounces the iPhone, even though its only running 2.3. The Google accounts integration is a lot smoother than mail on the iPhone and the phone features are better overall. And I never want to go back to pecking out text messages one letter at a time after using Swype.

However, as an apps platform it sucks for all the well known reasons. I think the reason that Android phones have sold so well is that the core features are at least as good as the iPhone. It's too bad, because I actually prefer the way they do a lot of things in the SDK (resource management, for instance). But I agree Google needs to get things under control soon.

Re: I'm sick to death of Android

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Post by orbitingpluto » Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 5:17 AM UTC

As an Android consumer, one of my biggest gripes is paid apps slowly increasing their permissions until they require everything.

Google has to allow downloads of previous versions if a paid app starts upping permission requirements OR providing an app by app permission blacklist for non-rooted phones.

Re: I'm sick to death of Android

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Post by ugh » Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 5:19 AM UTC

Osiris wrote: post #7

The main benefit of Android, in my opinion, is the large selection of hardware. I like hardware keyboards, for example, and so I at least have some choice if I want it (unlike Apple). However, that diversity in hardware is also the biggest problem with the platform. Handset manufacturers seem to look at a device as a "sell and forget" sort of item. They make it, sell it, and then move on to the next project. It's too…

Apple doesn‘t have a significant revenue stream from existing devices. Why does everyone think they are making lots of money by selling apps and media? They do not.

Re: I'm sick to death of Android

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Post by cageface » Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 5:20 AM UTC

makecheck wrote: post #5

I had an Android phone for roughly a year, after having a not-smart flip-phone for about 7 years! And even though I found real value in my old phone for 7 years, I tossed the Android for an iPhone 4S almost as soon as the new iPhone came out. When I first bought the Android phone (HTC Hero) I thought it was amazing. It really had some neat features, and there were things the iPhone couldn't do (like totally change th…

All you have to do to adjust your expectations of the quality of vendor bloatware is take a quick look at the trash that PC vendors install on new Windows laptops. Why should we expect these same companies to do any better with their Android apps? Apple definitely has a big advantage here.

It's a shame really, because I think iOS has largely stagnated from a UI perspective or perhaps even degenerated with the ridiculous skeuomorphisms of their recent apps.

Re: I'm sick to death of Android

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Post by nextparadigms » Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 5:21 AM UTC

Radzell wrote: post #3

I think it's obvious that sometimes open is not best. Business at a certain point don't really care about customers if they aren't getting profit. They sell millions of phone if they were to let say charge $5-$10 to people in order to upgrade the OS this would solve the problem. Yes giving upgrades for free would be the right thing to do for a moral human being, but this is a company not a person. Companies have not…

That's why I think for businesses who want to go open source, the best model is the Chrome/Chromium model. Keep Chromium as open as you want, but keep Chrome - that is built on it - only for yourself, and only you can control and modify it. If only Android worked the same way...

I believe all Chromebooks even get all the updates from Google, though it remains to be seen if that can be maintained with more than a few devices.

Re: I'm sick to death of Android

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Post by LVB » Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 5:21 AM UTC

CrazedGeek wrote: post #20

Do phones really /need/ to be updated to new OS versions? I recently upgraded to a Galaxy Nexus, and while ICS is pretty nice, I honestly think I could have lived with Froyo or Gingerbread for another couple years. (as an aside, as of last month, a good 45% of desktop web users were on Windows XP, an OS version that hasn't received any major updates since 2008: http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-sh…

Of course they don't need to be updated, but when I'm paying $50+/month for essentially a luxury (I could live with a prepaid dumb phone), my expectations go up. I'm paying a lot for fun/interesting technology and I want to partake now in the new whizzy things that people are raving about, not 9 months from now.