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WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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I’ve never been at a hotel that charged for WiFi - is that a US thing?

Yes. You often also have to pay for parking in many places. The price you see online is rarely what you pay for. But that's part of the culture, it's the same for restaurants, online purchases etc.

The sticker price is almost never what you pay, since tax is almost never included. Not sure how or when that norm diverged from the Euro one.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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When my son was younger - maybe 9 or 10 or so, we were on a plane and he was using his phone and I looked over his shoulder and realized he was on the internet... but I hadn't paid for an internet plan. I said, "son, how are you using the internet?" He said, "oh, a kid at school showed me - if you go here" (he opened up the wifi settings where the DHCP assigned IP address is) "and start changing the numbers, eventual…

A few years ago I was on a Southwest flight and had OpenVPN running because I forgot to turn it off. I was able to access the Internet through my tunnel without paying for access. I guess at the time they were only port blocking common ports (80, 443, 53 etc) if you didn't pay. They have since closed that hole.

For this same reason you used to be able to send messages via platforms like whatsapp without internet as well! I don't remember the airline I just remember I hadn't paid for internet but I could message and do a few other things but I couldn't browse the internet.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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Ha! I've used a high-end GPS to see my location and other fun facts in flight. I learned to keep it in my pocket as despite my attempts to explain it was only a receiver, I was told by the flight attendant to "PUT IT AWAY." Not being one to push back as to be removed for that flight, I did just that. Streets and Trips was fun on a laptop for long car drives as you could live reroute in the car much like any old app c…

FAs can be really strange about that kind of stuff, not just out of ignorance. My kid liked to suction cup his GoPro to the window to take a time lapse movie of the flight and one FA told him he had to take it off the window because he was, and I quote: "modifying the structure of the aircraft and that's not FAA-approved".

Had this happen to me with some duct tape and a malfunctioning strobing light next to me on a red-eye. I'm an aircraft builder but she didn't want to hear my explanation about how TSOs and the FARs work. I just waited until they stopped paying attention.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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Airline planes never use mph but only knots.

That makes sense. One reason I think it could be MPH despite that is because some of the other data seems like it's been processed so that it doesn't need to be transformed any further on the client side before using it in the UI, and the UI displays the speed in MPH. If I were still on the flight, I could just compare the numbers in these payloads to the MPH number in the UI and confirm.

Based on the lat/long of your destination and the coordinates of the plane I believe the distance and speed actually are in miles and mph: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37694487

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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I used to do the same thing at hotels. Still often works. nmap -sn 192.168.0.1-255 To find everyone on the network, then start spoofing each of their MACs until you find one that works

I’ve never been at a hotel that charged for WiFi - is that a US thing?

It used to be more common about 10 years ago, but especially so among hotels catering to business travel. Your Motel 6 would probably have free wifi, the Hilton wanted an extra $20 a night.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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post #265

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A few years ago I was on a Southwest flight and had OpenVPN running because I forgot to turn it off. I was able to access the Internet through my tunnel without paying for access. I guess at the time they were only port blocking common ports (80, 443, 53 etc) if you didn't pay. They have since closed that hole.

For this same reason you used to be able to send messages via platforms like whatsapp without internet as well! I don't remember the airline I just remember I hadn't paid for internet but I could message and do a few other things but I couldn't browse the internet.

That was probably deliberate. I flew United recently and they advertised free wifi for certain messaging apps, or you could pay to access more apps or the general internet.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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When my son was younger - maybe 9 or 10 or so, we were on a plane and he was using his phone and I looked over his shoulder and realized he was on the internet... but I hadn't paid for an internet plan. I said, "son, how are you using the internet?" He said, "oh, a kid at school showed me - if you go here" (he opened up the wifi settings where the DHCP assigned IP address is) "and start changing the numbers, eventual…

Expect cops on your doorstep for CFAA violations by the morrow.

It was a joke.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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Pretty sure all these hacks and tips for getting free Wi-Fi aren't actually very legal. Sure the chances of getting caught are small, but you are also stealing connectivity someone else paid for by spoofing their mac address. Something, something, mucking about with an airliner even if its just the wifi could probably be twisted into some sort of federal aviation offense too.
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