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Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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A boy has been arrested now: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/28/boy-16-arres...

Question 2: Should a 16 year old be able to get a chainsaw.

> Question 2: Should a 16 year old be able to get a chainsaw.

No. In the UK, it should be illegal for 16 year olds to get their hands on anything more than a dull crayon.

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

#152
post #131

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more or less, a tree is highly beneficial to the environment, it takes a long time to replace it (10+ years for that size, which is important for many other species, if only it manage to grow back), a human is not often beneficial on the other side we could compare human and an insect even, or a human and a whale, it's not really about size

When I was a lifeguard as a kid, I once arrived at the pool to find thousands of flies dead, floating on the surface. I thought to myself, "If these flies were humans, this place would be a battlefield," and went on with skimming the pool.

this shows how lethal are humans with their "swimming pools", that's more my thought, not just directly with that water but all the plastic, energy and resources wasted

I truely love flies, many beautiful species in trees, extremely useful and evolved insect

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Question 2: Should a 16 year old be able to get a chainsaw.

> Question 2: Should a 16 year old be able to get a chainsaw. No. In the UK, it should be illegal for 16 year olds to get their hands on anything more than a dull crayon.

Why would a 16 year old be in a situation to need a chainsaw but not have anyone older to purchase it for them?

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

#154

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Highly unlikely, that can happen in a dense forest with unmarked trees but this is controlled land and there is only the one tree there in that particular setting. Also: then the tree would have been stripped and removed. Someone just cut it down and ran off.

Unless this particular tree has an identifier of SYT-786B, and tree SYT-7868 was slated for felling, in which case this could have been an error, although you'd expect someone to have double-checked given the prominence of this specific tree.

If you’re from a 70 mile radius of that tree, you know its significance. Nobody would drive up and say “wow ok yeah gonna cut down this tree I don’t know what it is”.

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

#155

Can I just say this: BASTARD. What kind of bastard destroys such a thing of natural beauty? This bastard is not alone, there are other bastards out there. For example, Sheffield council: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/06/sheffield-ci... and Plymouth council: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-64961358 and this guy: https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/19660776.northwood-ma... and especially t…

I am surprised how weirdly common it is. Something similar happened nearish me as well:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/midwest/ct-madison-arboretum-...

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

#156

Can I just say this: BASTARD. What kind of bastard destroys such a thing of natural beauty? This bastard is not alone, there are other bastards out there. For example, Sheffield council: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/06/sheffield-ci... and Plymouth council: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-64961358 and this guy: https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/19660776.northwood-ma... and especially t…

What is the meaning of all of this? Is this just anti-social behavior seeping into city councils? Is there some political motive here?

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

#158

Can I just say this: BASTARD. What kind of bastard destroys such a thing of natural beauty? This bastard is not alone, there are other bastards out there. For example, Sheffield council: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/06/sheffield-ci... and Plymouth council: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-64961358 and this guy: https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/19660776.northwood-ma... and especially t…

What is the meaning of all of this? Is this just anti-social behavior seeping into city councils? Is there some political motive here?

"If you want to destroy the spirit of a country don't kill its people, burn its forests, fell the trees, and destroy its prized cultural artifacts"

The oldest trick in the book of war

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

#159
post #7

'we have reason to believe it was deliberately felled' One look at the base of that trunk and I think you can upgrade that to 'we know it was deliberately felled'.

A boy has been arrested now: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/28/boy-16-arres...

A minor? groomed to do the job?, scapegoat for sacrifice? How convenient

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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post #64

Can you put it back together? I mean normally you wouldn't even try, but if you cut a tree like that and stick the two halves back together and support it, could it remain alive? I know you can graft branches ...

In theory yes, but in the best cases you would have a very heavy load joined by stitches and not much more. Plus a few flattened tourists at the first breeze. An engineer could design a device gluing a inner core of hard wood or so, but we would need an expert on materials for that, and political will to allocate resources and do it fast.

The tree will regrow from the basis and grow fast for a while, but its health is doomed forever, will be also very vulnerable to cattle and wind (hanging forever from a hollowed trunk). nobody alive will see a 300 Yo healthy tree here anymore.

Acer pseudoplatanus has a semi-soft wood. That fact is relevant to investigate if the Satan's little tool needed help or not. Doing the same with an oak would be much more difficult for an adolescent.

My bet is that there was a team here, and the boy role was to be chewed by the police as a bait. Knowing it or not. The intellectual author could be in a different country by now.

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