WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

Post by constantly » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 6:08 PM UTC

catiopatio wrote: post #181

mynameisvlad wrote: post #174

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Give me one example, then. Of an app which uses a notification as an actual app data source and not just as a notification which opens the app. And which also updates the primary app view to reflect this new information. No other app has updated its app state based on the content of notifications. Slack/Discord/Teams et al (the ones that aren't allowed on free messaging plans) will show you previously cached messages…

Slack/Discord/Teams ? Those are desktop web applications hosted via Electron. Failing to leverage basic platform functionality is practically their telos. It’s a trivial, documented, supported, long-standing API for a common use-case. It is widely used, as documented, for its intended purpose. I cannot share information about specific applications.

Post by dhritzkiv » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 6:11 PM UTC

jfim wrote: post #200

dramm wrote: post #136

“According to this data, the plane’s altitude was only fluctuating by about 20-30 feet. This is more stable than I expected!” Autopilots are very good and they are servoing to the pressure altitude. Many pressure altitude encoders used in modern aircraft (for example to drive altitudes that transponders report to SSR radar or via ADS-B) have 25 ft encoding resolution. That 25ft resolution is likely what is being seen…

A plane going up and down 20-30 feet seems like it would be very unpleasant. Considering that there's longitude and latitude, isn't it more likely that the altitude is coming from GPS, which is notoriously inaccurate with regards to elevation?

Post by jrms » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 6:12 PM UTC

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #173

dheera wrote: post #133

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Tomorrow it'll be 8 bucks to drink water, 8 bucks to use the bathroom, ... Yeah, you can argue internet isn't a necessity. Neither is the bathroom, you can use a poo bag and a diaper. But we're a civilized society. So we provide bathrooms to anyone that needs them. And internet access.

This seems like a poor slippery slope argument. It’s not as if charging for internet is new, it’s been what? 20 years? And yet they still don’t charge for water

Post by Martinussen » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 6:13 PM UTC

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #173

dheera wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tomorrow it'll be 8 bucks to drink water, 8 bucks to use the bathroom, ... Yeah, you can argue internet isn't a necessity. Neither is the bathroom, you can use a poo bag and a diaper. But we're a civilized society. So we provide bathrooms to anyone that needs them. And internet access.

This seems like a poor slippery slope argument. It’s not as if charging for internet is new, it’s been what? 20 years? And yet they still don’t charge for water

Post by savrajsingh » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 6:14 PM UTC

KMnO4 wrote: post #214

commandlinefan wrote: post #205

When my son was younger - maybe 9 or 10 or so, we were on a plane and he was using his phone and I looked over his shoulder and realized he was on the internet... but I hadn't paid for an internet plan. I said, "son, how are you using the internet?" He said, "oh, a kid at school showed me - if you go here" (he opened up the wifi settings where the DHCP assigned IP address is) "and start changing the numbers, eventual…

I used to do the same thing at hotels. Still often works. nmap -sn 192.168.0.1-255 To find everyone on the network, then start spoofing each of their MACs until you find one that works