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WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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Sure. But you’re on a site called “Hacker News”. I’m not sure that there’s a more perfect topic of discussion for a site with that name.

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Hahaha. Reminds me of a savings "hack" my brother once shared at the dinner table with a straight face:

Just take any adhesive label off of the "clearance" meat at the supermarket, and apply it to the cut you wanted to buy. Instant savings!

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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I'm an Alaska (relatively) frequent flyer. That airline offers a free "messaging" plan, that lets you send and receive messages on apps like iMessage, Facebook Messenger and Whatsapp. Though, it somehow prevents images/attachments from coming through on those platforms. I've always wondered how this is implemented technically, and if it might be possible to setup some kind of protocol/wrapper to send data that looks…

Probably 10-15 years ago when wifi on airlines was still pretty brand new I remember a fun hack for free Internet that involved Google Translate. Because the wifi landing pages used Google Analytics, they allowed traffic through from many of the Google domains. You could then go to Google translate and translate the website from English to English and use it as sort of a proxy server to get free Internet.

You could probably have used googels cache to read arbitrary pages as well.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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I was just thinking that you could take a picture from the window and then tie the GPS coordinates to the image with the output from that JSON. Kind of handy.

If you have location permissions enabled in your camera app, the image's exif data will have the coordinates in it. (US Civilian GPS units are prohibited from working above 60,000 ft above sea level and 1,000 knots due to ITAR munitions export restrictions.)

Stupid question: how do civilian GPS units know that they're above 60,000' or faster than 1000 knots without, um, working?

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I used to work at WhatsApp (until the end of 2019) on many things, including special pricing (aka zero rating); we did not work with airlines, and would not have participated in a project where messages and attachments where treated differently. That said, technically there's two pretty easy ways to do it for WhatsApp traffic, and then there's the way I suspect they're doing it... a) chat runs on different ips than a…

> WA chat is not HTTPS (or even TLS) If you don’t mind, could you expend on this? Are there specific reasons to not be using TLS?

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Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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Sure. But you’re on a site called “Hacker News”. I’m not sure that there’s a more perfect topic of discussion for a site with that name.

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We've come full circle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZm8vNHBSU

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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Is net neutrality even law anymore? T-Mobile has had Binge on for a long time, which zero-rates certain video streaming services. And part of that was even under the old net neutrality laws.

Binge On doesn't fall under strict net neutrality, but they are at least publicly open to all lawful and licensed content audio/video providers, and the technical requirements are not very high. I don't know what the actual onboarding process is like, but they've got a lot of providers signed up...

https://www.t-mobile.com/tv-streaming/binge-on/apps-list.htm... doesn't list all that many providers if we're talking about all video streaming services worldwide. I notice a large one under the gaming category missing, Twitch.

Re: WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

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You're not understanding the point of the comment. The Flighty team did some amazing engineering work for anyone who doesn't pay.

> amazing engineering Background updates are a built-in, supported, documented feature, widely employed by applications on the platform, and accessible to anyone that reads the two pages of documentation required to use them: “Pushing background updates to your App — Deliver notifications that wake your app and update it in the background.” https://developer.apple.com/documentation/usernotifications/... edited for po…

Why is that toxic?
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