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Fairphone 4 with /e/OS by Murena now available at fairphone.com

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Re: Fairphone 4 with /e/OS by Murena now available at fairphone.com

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Post by Fnoord »

monopoliessuck wrote: post #34
Fnoord wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do sell a USB-C to headphone jack adapter. I got one, barely ever use it.

Of course they _sell_ a headphone jack adapter. That's the point of removing it. All the "weatherproofing" and "complexity" talk is just smoke.

Geez, what a negative take on a company who do their best to be environment-friendly.

I got quite some corrosion on the headphone jack of my Raspberry Pi 2B. Not sure why. But either way, these adapters can be bought anywhere, and they'll work on other devices as well. Like I said, I didn't use mine much. Usually Bluetooth with an adequate profile is good enough. I doubt people hear the difference between Bluetooth adequate profile and 3.5 mm in a double blind test.

Re: Fairphone 4 with /e/OS by Murena now available at fairphone.com

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Post by monopoliessuck »

lm28469 wrote: post #28
supermatt wrote: post #21

How does the fairphone compare with other modern smartphones of comparable price: iPhone 13, Samsung Galaxy S22, Google Pixel 7? Is it comparable, or is it a generation or two behind?

It depends a lot of what you do with your phone tbh, I'm on a pixel 3a and still see no reasons to update, the fairphone 4 is better spec'd than that

I agree with you practically except that the pixel 3a has not been getting security updates for over a year.

I wouldn't run it with anything personal on it.

- https://endoflife.date/pixel

Re: Fairphone 4 with /e/OS by Murena now available at fairphone.com

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Post by Moldoteck »

supermatt wrote: post #21

How does the fairphone compare with other modern smartphones of comparable price: iPhone 13, Samsung Galaxy S22, Google Pixel 7? Is it comparable, or is it a generation or two behind?

Camera meh, a bit slower bc processor is older, but fair production+ 8y of os updates (imo that's even better than iphone, bc many things in android are isolated from os, so even after 8y functionality shouldn't be affected that much. + add 1-2 more years from graphene os

Re: Fairphone 4 with /e/OS by Murena now available at fairphone.com

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Post by monopoliessuck »

Fnoord wrote: post #41
monopoliessuck wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course they _sell_ a headphone jack adapter. That's the point of removing it. All the "weatherproofing" and "complexity" talk is just smoke.

Geez, what a negative take on a company who do their best to be environment-friendly. I got quite some corrosion on the headphone jack of my Raspberry Pi 2B. Not sure why. But either way, these adapters can be bought anywhere, and they'll work on other devices as well. Like I said, I didn't use mine much. Usually Bluetooth with an adequate profile is good enough. I doubt people hear the difference between Bluetooth a…

Apple's omission was the same garbage about complexity and space, yet no one in the real world had these problems. Apple is making a killing on Bluetooth accessories and adapters which have a much much higher markup than phones. Do you buy that SD cards or removable batteries were "too complicated" and bloaty for the end-user too?

If you're trying to differente yourself from Apple, it seems like a no brainer to include a jack especially since USB ports are needed for charging, battery case accessories, data transfer etc. all of which can't be done while listening to music.

On top of that, a "wobbly" USB port is like the top issue with phones outside of a cracked screen and an analog port is way more resilient to always being plugged in while in your pocket than any USB adapter ever will be.

My wired headset is going to outlive whatever bluetooth sealed-in battery garbage "works today until it doesn't" too so "environmentally friendly" needs an asterisk.

This is Fairphone playing copy apple. You can like Fairphone and their mission, but giving them a pass here is just playing into marketing bs.

Re: Fairphone 4 with /e/OS by Murena now available at fairphone.com

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Post by rany_ »

Fnoord wrote: post #41
monopoliessuck wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course they _sell_ a headphone jack adapter. That's the point of removing it. All the "weatherproofing" and "complexity" talk is just smoke.

Geez, what a negative take on a company who do their best to be environment-friendly. I got quite some corrosion on the headphone jack of my Raspberry Pi 2B. Not sure why. But either way, these adapters can be bought anywhere, and they'll work on other devices as well. Like I said, I didn't use mine much. Usually Bluetooth with an adequate profile is good enough. I doubt people hear the difference between Bluetooth a…

It is true though, lest we forget that Samsung managed to make the Galaxy S5 IP67 water resistant... this phone meanwhile is IP57 rated, which is actually even worse. If they tell you "it's harder with the headphone jack" that's not a good enough reason either, just try harder; it's not worth omitting when we know it is possible.

Samsung was able to pull this off with the S5 A DECADE AGO:

- removable back

- removable battery

- headphone jack

- SD card slot

- IP67 water resistant

This is an anti-environment moneygrab plain and simple. They omit the headphone jack so that they sell you the solution, which just so happens to be their brand of wireless headphones, dongle, whatever... if you actually like FairPhone you'd criticize them over this bullocks instead of being an uncritical parrot.

Re: Fairphone 4 with /e/OS by Murena now available at fairphone.com

#48

Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

monopoliessuck wrote: post #42
lm28469 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends a lot of what you do with your phone tbh, I'm on a pixel 3a and still see no reasons to update, the fairphone 4 is better spec'd than that

I agree with you practically except that the pixel 3a has not been getting security updates for over a year. I wouldn't run it with anything personal on it. - https://endoflife.date/pixel

On the stock firmware, sure, but lineage OS doesn't have that problem

Re: Fairphone 4 with /e/OS by Murena now available at fairphone.com

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Post by monopoliessuck »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #48
monopoliessuck wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you practically except that the pixel 3a has not been getting security updates for over a year. I wouldn't run it with anything personal on it. - https://endoflife.date/pixel

On the stock firmware, sure, but lineage OS doesn't have that problem

Great, so your security situatuon is now determined by two contributors that haven't moved on back-porting userspace lineageos to your device.

I very much doubt anyone is making kernel or vendor updates to upstream neglected components.

See https://grapheneos.org/faq#legacy-devices

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