WiFi without internet on a Southwest flight

Post by dgellow » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 4:37 PM UTC

toast0 wrote: post #72

atourgates wrote: post #4

I'm an Alaska (relatively) frequent flyer. That airline offers a free "messaging" plan, that lets you send and receive messages on apps like iMessage, Facebook Messenger and Whatsapp. Though, it somehow prevents images/attachments from coming through on those platforms. I've always wondered how this is implemented technically, and if it might be possible to setup some kind of protocol/wrapper to send data that looks…

I used to work at WhatsApp (until the end of 2019) on many things, including special pricing (aka zero rating); we did not work with airlines, and would not have participated in a project where messages and attachments where treated differently. That said, technically there's two pretty easy ways to do it for WhatsApp traffic, and then there's the way I suspect they're doing it... a) chat runs on different ips than a…

Post by Xeamek » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 4:39 PM UTC

SirMaster wrote: post #21

organsnyder wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

United wifi is similar. I've found that notifications work for most things, including my Home Assistant instance—they must all use the same Apple push service.

On iOS all notifications have to use Apple's Push service. And the WiFi essentially has to allow the Apple push notification system entirely in order for iMessage to work fully the way people expect. So it's really a side effect. But yeah for example with the free iMessage connection on Southwest, I can see all the notifications come in on Discord, but of course I cannot connect within the discord app to actually loa…

Post by vzqx » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 4:40 PM UTC

SirMaster wrote: post #24

I want to see someone build a proxy that uses the free iMessage or WhatsApp allowed connection to send arbitrary data. Like have a WhatsApp relay set up at home that you are sending messages to and from, from the plane. Like at a most basic level, send a message of a URL to your home WhatsApp which loads the web page there, and sends the HTML back as a WhatApp message reply so you can render it etc. Wonder what someo…

Post by hackmiester » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 4:40 PM UTC

    $ curl https://wifi.delta.com/api/flight-data | jq
      % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                     Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
    100   448  100   448    0     0   5600      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--  5743
    {
      "timestamp": "2023-07-11T14:54:41Z",
      "eta": "17:48",
      "flightDuration": 278,
      "flightNumber": "DAL786",
      "latitude": 39.723472595214844,
      "longitude": -97.1514205932617,
      "noseId": "3879",
      "paState": false,
      "vehicleId": "N879DN",
      "destination": "KPDX",
      "origin": "KATL",
      "flightId": "N879DN_SF_20230711121358",
      "airspeed": null,
      "airTemperature": 24,
      "altitude": 33922,
      "distanceToGo": 179,
      "doorState": "Closed",
      "groundspeed": 442,
      "heading": -73,
      "timeToGo": 174,
      "wheelWeightState": "Off"
    }

    $ curl -s https://wifi.delta.com/api/flight-data | jq -r '"https://maps.google.com/?q=", .latitude, ",", .longitude' | tr -d '\n'; echo
    https://maps.google.com/?q=40.5615234375,-101.2824478149414

Post by s3p » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 4:42 PM UTC

ardit33 wrote: post #80

It is just 8 bucks for the full service... just buy the internet bro. It is actually pretty good.