China is flooding Taiwan with disinformation

Post by ranguna » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 5:38 AM UTC

glimshe wrote: post #164

ranguna wrote: post #155

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Here's a thought, maybe all those news are "fake news"? The original article talks about China misinformation in Taiwan. Maybe western society is running the same thing to China. Like like they did for North Korea. Remember the "people can only get certain types of haircuts in North Korea"? Fake news, and I believed it at the time. So now I'm always sceptical on what I read from western news talking about Asian count…

Western "society" can't do anything because it's not a uniform entity. We're a group of individuals who can post ideas and theories in forums like Hacker News or anywhere else. Perhaps you can say that about mainstream media, having in mind that the average person doesn't care too much about what happens inside China or Asia, unless if it's killing jobs in the West.

Post by taskforcegemini » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 4:23 PM UTC

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Post by foverzar » Fri, Sep 29, 2023, 3:11 PM UTC

3seashells wrote: post #156

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That’s a bizarre idea. China wants Taiwan because they consider it a renegade province. I doubt they care about one fab.

Everyone can dig out ancient maps and declare something renegade. Defacto Taiwan is a independent nation, with a very different (not purged aka original) Chinese culture. Russia claims Ukraine, Poland and GDr to be renegade provinces. Should we just accept that.

Post by dundarious » Wed, Oct 04, 2023, 3:26 PM UTC

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arp242 wrote: post #82

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That's just a boring pedantic whataboutism, which is also incorrect as the type of "random people can say random stuff" blue-sky thinking free speech doesn't really exist in China.

It's not whataboutism (a nebulous and mostly useless category) to talk about common journalistic practice, and how the claim falls well within norms of that practice. So it can hardly be described as "disinformation" except in the sense that it is unflattering information coming from an official enemy.