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Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff

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Re: Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff

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oh No, they sold Bandcamp... According to Jason Schreier https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1707416234461909487

I always advise people to at least have a backup spot to send people to even if they don't maintain their own website, and I take my own advice. I expected something like this, so I've been dropping every album into an item in my Ko-fi shop: https://ko-fi.com/s/7e9f22c63b

Ko-fi is 25GB for free and 200GB for paid accounts, so most things will fit. I'll probably cross-post it to Patreon's new shop feature in the near future just to be safe.

edit: and confirmation

https://www.songtradr.com/blog/posts/songtradr-bandcamp-acqu...

Re: Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff

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> I wonder also how much of a driver new programmer productivity tools like copilot and ChatGPT are factoring into this. If your top 10% productivity workers just got a 30%+ productivity boost, that means you can easily shed the bottom 20% productive workers and still be ahead of the game. I can confidently say that this factors in 0%. Layoffs were happening in the industry even before the LLM craze. And a 30% overal…

everyone looking for any reason when its obviously a massive recession due to govt. spending

Massive government spending? Sure. But "massive recession"? Really?

Re: Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff

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This is probably just continued post-COVID demand normalization. Basically all software and gaming got a massive bump that was obviously going to have an unsustainable component to it. But in many cases companies planned like it was totally sustainable and would continue. That’s why even super profitable companies like Microsoft and Epic are doing layoffs in 2023. The other reason of course is that they went a bit cr…

Anecdotally, GitHub Co Pilot is barely a 5% performance boost. Still useful, but I think a nice coffee machine does more.

Yeah, I think it depends on your specialty. If you're an enterprise developer, you save on some boilerplate for sure, and it's a nice alternative to Stack Overflow.

If you're more of a generalist though? I can see productivity gains of 25% maybe.

Re: Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wonder also how much of a driver new programmer productivity tools like copilot and ChatGPT are factoring into this. If your top 10% productivity workers just got a 30%+ productivity boost, that means you can easily shed the bottom 20% productive workers and still be ahead of the game. I can confidently say that this factors in 0%. Layoffs were happening in the industry even before the LLM craze. And a 30% overal…

everyone looking for any reason when its obviously a massive recession due to govt. spending

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Re: Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wonder also how much of a driver new programmer productivity tools like copilot and ChatGPT are factoring into this. If your top 10% productivity workers just got a 30%+ productivity boost, that means you can easily shed the bottom 20% productive workers and still be ahead of the game. I can confidently say that this factors in 0%. Layoffs were happening in the industry even before the LLM craze. And a 30% overal…

everyone looking for any reason when its obviously a massive recession due to govt. spending

It's monetary policy tightening (effective rate 0% -> ~5%), not government spending. There is no recession, just normalization (zero interest rate policy, or ZIRP, was an abnormality). Unemployment is close to lowest levels in history because of structural demographics. When money gets more expensive, you must perform, adapt, or die as a business. Cashflow is king, and profits juiced from government stimulus mentioned is simply evaporating as the Fed drains money out of the system.

Businesses are attempting to discover how to operate in a macro that makes labor and money more expensive than they've been accustomed to over the last 15-20 years. u/DoughnutHole touches on another important point: businesses and capital are clinging to returns that might no longer be obtainable in this new macro (as we've been papering over reality with cheap credit and financialization for some time). What is going to break first? Who knows, first time we're someplace like this. Everyone is going to fight like hell to defend their piece of the pie (note the broad layoffs and back to hiring shortly after, as well as activist investors demanding trimming labor costs aggressively).

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FEDFUNDS (Pick 10Y time scale)

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WM2NS

https://www.goldmansachs.com/intelligence/pages/why-the-us-m...

https://fedinprint.org/item/fedkeb/96953 | https://www.kansascityfed.org/Economic%20Bulletin/documents/... ("The labor market has so far shown remarkable resilience to the Federal Reserve’s recent monetary policy tightening. Severe labor shortages in the post-pandemic era have led many employers to hold on to workers and hire less-skilled workers—even though they expect demand for their goods or services to weaken in the future. As a result, unemployment remains low, and labor productivity has declined.")

Re: Epic Games is laying off 16% of its staff

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Anecdote coming up, but when Google laid off a bunch of people those that I know that worked there said the most critical people on their teams were the ones let go.

And yet there has been no operational impact at Google since the layoffs...so maybe they weren't so critical after all?

What do you mean "no operational impact"? How did you measure that? People on this site are constantly complaining how horrible the Google services became.
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