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Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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'we have reason to believe it was deliberately felled' One look at the base of that trunk and I think you can upgrade that to 'we know it was deliberately felled'.

You know sometimes you just fall while carrying a motor saw with the throttle fully open. Happens to the best of us.

accidental shotgun blasts too -- sorry about that!

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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Most of modern Scotland was forest up until a fairly recent time. The felling of one tree is an instagram tragedy; the felling of one billion is an economic statistic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caledonian_Forest

It was bare enough for Boswell and Johnson on their famous tour of Scotland to remark on it. In 1773. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Journey_to_the_Western_Islan...

It has actually improved since the first world war, when there was large scale replanting of trees. For the rest of it, there remains a complex question: the moorland, as it is now, is an ecosystem in itself, and the main force preventing reforestation naturally is wild deer.

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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If it's found they felled the tree then they're in a lot of trouble.

Sadly it would be pretty hard to pin this on them. Farmers and field owners get away with almost anything in the UK. Look at the gorse fires or the state of Lough Neagh.

I believe you but I find it hard to imagine that something like this would go without serious consequences. Here in NL cutting down any tree, even if it is on your own land requires a permit. Doing it without a permit to a vandalize a valuable piece of heritage should not be without consequences.

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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This is a crime. A terrible senseless crime in a time of environmental destruction by mankind. What we need to do is take any seeds of this tree and plant 20-100 of its potential children in the area. We need to grind this tree up and make food and strengthen the soil for the future trees in the site. Potentially we then need more cameras or tighter restrictions when it comes to visiting the site during off hours. Wh…

I was with you until the cameras. But I'd be happy to contribute to a bounty to catch whoever did this. I have similar feelings for tourists that climb on monuments as well (or that scratch their names into them).

Doesn’t need to be cameras. Tighter restrictions might be more practical during off hours.

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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'we have reason to believe it was deliberately felled' One look at the base of that trunk and I think you can upgrade that to 'we know it was deliberately felled'.

That’s the expected British understatement, it’s just how the police communicates there.

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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"Recent" is always a funny thing. In my mind 1600 is roughly the start, or a little after the start, of the modern period, therefore recent. Who was it that said "In Europe 100 miles is a long way, in America 100 years is a long time?"

I love in the US when people boast their house was built in the 1800s. 1800s! In England I consider that fancy new construction. But yes, it boggles peoples' minds in England when you travel more than a couple of hours by car to go anywhere. If I told a Brit I drove my car 2500 miles to L.A. on a whim they would have me institutionalized.

To be fair though, 1800 is a while ago, especially for wooden construction. But I've lived in a wooden house that was built in 1625 that probably was on it's fifth renovation by 1800. And it still stands today.

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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Slightly related: I always get surprised by how "small" Hadrian wall is. I mean, it was just to demarcate tthe point where the barbarians "should not" cross I believe? For sure it wasn't working as a regular wall to stop any invasions.

Even a 1 foot high wall is hard to sneakily move at night.

It's a marker on the ground of 'my territory' vs 'your territory'. If you catch someone the wrong side of it, they have no excuse of 'oh, I thought this was my land'.

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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'we have reason to believe it was deliberately felled' One look at the base of that trunk and I think you can upgrade that to 'we know it was deliberately felled'.

The cut is too straight and flat to be an amateur with a chainsaw. A cheapo chainsaw wouldn't be long enough to do this without needing to go in from both sides. There is also a paint line along the cut. Who paints along the line they're about to cut if they're just cutting down a tree?

Yes, all agreed. I've lived on a large lot in Canada where every year some trees were logged to give the rest breathing room. This wasn't done by someone who used a chainsaw for the first time, neither was it done with a small saw, that's a very clean cut. To add insult to injury they aimed the drop straight at the wall.

Re: Iconic tree at Hadrian's Wall's 'Sycamore Gap' has been 'felled'

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So? It's just a tree, why should we care about it just because a random person planted a seed a hundred years ago?

Yes, it's just a tree. A new tree can grow. The Philistine instagrammers will be disappointed. So sad. It's not a Roman tree. A new tree literally grows (on) trees.

Can we say the same statement with human instead of tree?
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