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Post by badtension »

throwaway2990 wrote: post #314
badtension wrote: post #307

I wonder if anyone here is using RPi as a main PC? Seems to be capable of most office work with a bit of multimedia on the side. My laptop is dying and I would love to get something stationary that is low-power by default yet good enough so that the internet wouldn't lag. Mounted at the back of an LCD screen could make a nice wireless setup with the other peripherals.

Na it’s too slow. I got one and I don’t touch it. I do also have an orange pi 5 and khandas edge 2 pro. Both are miles ahead of the rpi4 and based on specs they are miles ahead of the rpi5.

Are your other microcomputers capable of normal office operation?

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Post by Narishma »

asddubs wrote: post #34

I would love to see a more side by side comparison of specs. 2-3x times the speed pretty good though. The raspi 4 was just on the cusp of being usable as a main computer, I wonder how good this will be.

> The raspi 4 was just on the cusp of being usable as a main computer, I wonder how good this will be.

Don't worry, software developers are on it. Soon the Pi 5 will also be on the cusp of being usable as a main computer.

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Post by Citizen_Lame »

schappim wrote: post #192
stkdump wrote: post #143

No word on price. When Raspberry Pi first launched, this was the prime feature of the thing. Can we expect same price as the Raspberry Pi 4? (at the respective RAM level) Edit: found it here: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/ So the 4 GB model is 60$, which is 5$ more than the 4 GB model of the Raspberry 4 when that was launched: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-.…

Raspberry Pi 5 4GB - US$60.00 (EAN 5056561803319) Raspberry Pi 5 8GB - US$80.00 (EAN 5056561803326)

Cheaper to buy in the US than the UK.

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Post by epolanski »

iamtedd wrote: post #89
foggywin wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean with vague information? There is an entire blog post describing the product: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/

This is pretty bad: "Does Raspberry Pi 5 need active cooling? "Raspberry Pi 5 is faster and more powerful than prior-generation Raspberry Pis, and like most general-purpose computers, it will perform best with active cooling. The Raspberry Pi Case for Raspberry Pi 5, with its integrated fan, is one way to provide this." They pose a question themselves, and don't even answer it. Of course something will perform best w…

It literally tells you that you don't need cooling, but if you add it you'll get more performance.

I don't find it hard to understand what this means: the soc limits it's core performance based on thermal conditions and will throttle when hitting limit temperature. That's standard behavior on every computer or smartphone or GPU out there.

Make temperature lower and it will clock and run at higher speeds without throttling.

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Post by avidphantasm »

keikobadthebad wrote: post #318
KaiserPro wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, the intel n100 is absolutely fantastic. but even at bargain basement price its at least 2-4x the price: https://www.amazon.co.uk/TRIGKEY-Mini-PC-Desktop-Computer/dp... I have the above, it's max powerdraw is From what I've seen the pi5 is 1/3rd faster than the intel j5005. (in pybench at least.) but comparing to a real intel NUC, of course its going to be faster, the NUC costs an entire order of magnitude more.

The SD is the worst for reliability, but if it's like rpi4, you can put UEFI on the SPI flash and come up on non-SD boot devices without SD now. But that's all kind of crazy when cheaper, faster SBCs commonly simply boot to reliable, on-board, eMMC.

Yeah, still happy I went with the Odroid M1 for a small home media server. It’s not fast, but it does everything I need out of the box, has a very nice aluminum case, and doesn’t use much power.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by Narishma »

geerlingguy wrote: post #167
lloydatkinson wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a shame they didn’t add actual POE without extra hardware.

PoE requires a few beefy components that would blow the board size (and BOM) up quite a bit, for a feature probably only 10-20% of users require. I'm happy with a separate accessory, but wish they could've kept compatibility with the previous versions.

More like 1 or 2%.

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Post by numpad0 »

peteforde wrote: post #205
uxp8u61q wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I may be completely off base here, but maybe the rpi wasn't the best tool for the project then? What was it, if I may ask?

I mean, I'd be curious what you'd have suggested! We needed it to be small, low power, low heat, provide hardware level access to a camera module, be ethernet accessible. Oh, and under $100 including a fixed M-mount lens. At the time, it didn't seem like rolling our own hardware would have been faster. I would argue - given we succeeded at sub 1ms syncronization - that the Pi was close to the perfect tool. It just wo…

This is an armchair hindsight, but sounds like that needed a way to broadcast trigger GPIO interrupts, which are like JavaScript event handler for hardware.

You can attach a function to a pin, and CPU force-jump into a preprogrammed address for a handler routine, which leads into your code, then return(return(return())) back to where it came from. The trigger can be delivered by, say, a Xenon flash pointed at the ceiling and a light sensor, or a dedicated pair of wires from a master Arduino, or a intentional glitch in power line, a drone receiver per each pi all on a same channel, etc.

> fixed M-mount lens

I assume this is meant to say metric threaded C/CS mount for surveillance cameras, as M-mount is boutique full-frame Leica mount.

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Post by teamonkey »

qwertox wrote: post #301

A NVMe compatible M.2 M Key connector (like the Rock 5 Model B [0] has) would have been really nice. I'm starting to accumulate old but good, yet small in storage space terms NVMe's which I'm no longer needing, but which would be perfect for a Raspi. Even if the PCIe bus were an older generation and not as performant as the NVMe. The microSD card slot is really great to have, to get up-and-running, but once it's clea…

The blog post says they're releasing a M.2 hat in "early 2024"
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