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Cisco To Shut Down For 4 Days At Year End

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Re: Cisco To Shut Down For 4 Days At Year End

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If they're losing money every day, closing down for 4 days makes sense.

Yes, as much as closing down for the whole year.

While that's an oversimplification to be sure, what you just described is also known as "returning the money to the stockholders".

Re: Cisco To Shut Down For 4 Days At Year End

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There is very little information in this article. In fact, the headline pretty much sums it all up. A quote or two to put this in context would have been nice. The article implies the shutdown is a cost saving measure, but provides absolutely nothing to back this up. It doesn't even mention whether or not employees will be paid for the four days. For all we know, they could just be giving employees a little more time…

I can't find anywhere in the Reuters article where it explicitly says employees will not be paid. However, both articles say that this is a cost saving measure. I don't really see what is the big deal with the gigaom article.

Re: Cisco To Shut Down For 4 Days At Year End

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I had my doubts after reading the gigaom article, but the Reuters article I found mentioned a statement from a Cisco person saying it is a cost saving measure. I guess it's a safe assumption that employees will not be paid for these days. Can your "friend" share a little more information? So far, there seems to be very little information available.

If what you say is true, this measure doesn't seem to make any sense. If their employees cost more than what they produce every day, doing nothing for 4 days is similar to closing your eyes and wishing the problem away.

I think that's a little bit of an oversimplification. Their two basic options are a shutdown or layoffs. I'm guessing they are doing the shutdown and hopes that sales rebound and they can avoid a round of layoffs. There is a cost to laying off people as well.

Re: Cisco To Shut Down For 4 Days At Year End

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Cisco has _always_ virtually shut down between Christmas and New Years IIRC. People always take time off during the holidays: it isn't worthwhile to keep the whole business running. It's always been their unofficial policy, if not official to do so.

IMHO this is a silly attempt to cause panic.

Re: Cisco To Shut Down For 4 Days At Year End

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i have a "friend" who "works" there. this really is a cost saving effort.

I had my doubts after reading the gigaom article, but the Reuters article I found mentioned a statement from a Cisco person saying it is a cost saving measure. I guess it's a safe assumption that employees will not be paid for these days. Can your "friend" share a little more information? So far, there seems to be very little information available.

I don't have a friend at cisco but I have friends in other large name companies and usually when they force shut down (esp. around the holidays) It comes out of the employees vacation days.

Re: Cisco To Shut Down For 4 Days At Year End

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i have a "friend" who "works" there. this really is a cost saving effort.

I had my doubts after reading the gigaom article, but the Reuters article I found mentioned a statement from a Cisco person saying it is a cost saving measure. I guess it's a safe assumption that employees will not be paid for these days. Can your "friend" share a little more information? So far, there seems to be very little information available.

My friend works at Cisco and told me about this last week. They are indeed taking the days out of their employees' vacation days. If they don't have any vacation days, they will be on unpaid leave for the week.

This type of thing has also happened to other friends of mine. It's a cost-saving maneuver and also helps lower the companies' liabilities due to having so many vacation days on the books (since the company has to pay you money for each vacation day you have once you leave).

Re: Cisco To Shut Down For 4 Days At Year End

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Cisco has _always_ virtually shut down between Christmas and New Years IIRC. People always take time off during the holidays: it isn't worthwhile to keep the whole business running. It's always been their unofficial policy, if not official to do so. IMHO this is a silly attempt to cause panic.

This is of a piece with the WebGuild's recent "Google layoffs may affect 10,000." Hyping negative news. Cisco had shutdowns over the holidays for years. The cost savings come from reducing deferred vacation pay (most people will take vacation days to avoid going without pay) and cutting expenses related to keeping buildings open. It also sends a message to employees to become more cost conscious.

Re: Cisco To Shut Down For 4 Days At Year End

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had my doubts after reading the gigaom article, but the Reuters article I found mentioned a statement from a Cisco person saying it is a cost saving measure. I guess it's a safe assumption that employees will not be paid for these days. Can your "friend" share a little more information? So far, there seems to be very little information available.

My friend works at Cisco and told me about this last week. They are indeed taking the days out of their employees' vacation days. If they don't have any vacation days, they will be on unpaid leave for the week. This type of thing has also happened to other friends of mine. It's a cost-saving maneuver and also helps lower the companies' liabilities due to having so many vacation days on the books (since the company ha…

Thought you were supposed to be able to "borrow" from future PTO.
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