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Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by Al-Khwarizmi » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 7:38 AM UTC

plugin-baby wrote: post #689

Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #684

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually I find the idea of recording everything (or maybe not everything, but seamlessly recording whenever I want) quite attractive. I have a bad memory and would love to be able to rewatch good moments of my life. The part about all that data being in control of powerful corporations, though... that's what makes me thing that I'd prefer it to fail as well. I wish we could have this sort of tech outside of the fram…

All the bad moments would be recorded too, and many of the recordings would be outside of your control.

I would choose what to play, but of course, the "outside my control" part is the problem.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by alt227 » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 7:38 AM UTC

vinay_ys wrote: post #660

I seriously hope this doesn't take off and fails spectacularly like Google Glass. I don't want a society where the people I'm interacting with are always recording everything around and giving it to a private profit corporation who can change their minds about what they will do all that private data any time they like.

Apple have done all the hard work here by releasing the vision pro and convincing all normal people that AR is 'cool' instead of 'wierd' now.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by AlecSchueler » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 7:40 AM UTC

Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #684

vinay_ys wrote: post #660

I seriously hope this doesn't take off and fails spectacularly like Google Glass. I don't want a society where the people I'm interacting with are always recording everything around and giving it to a private profit corporation who can change their minds about what they will do all that private data any time they like.

Actually I find the idea of recording everything (or maybe not everything, but seamlessly recording whenever I want) quite attractive. I have a bad memory and would love to be able to rewatch good moments of my life. The part about all that data being in control of powerful corporations, though... that's what makes me thing that I'd prefer it to fail as well. I wish we could have this sort of tech outside of the fram…

For personal use I kind of agree with you but I would be very concerned about the stalking potentials. We're already seeing huge issues of women being targeted by guys making and distributing "creepshots" and now deepfake based harassment. Constant recording is both a tool to increase access to women in public places as well as to separate the user's feelings from the world they're inhabiting.

Edit: I note that someone else is in the thread already saying "It's going to be awesome for amateur porn" without any caveats about the rampant consent issues of amateur pornography, revenge porn or age verification.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by Kiro » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 7:42 AM UTC

vinay_ys wrote: post #699

Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #684

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually I find the idea of recording everything (or maybe not everything, but seamlessly recording whenever I want) quite attractive. I have a bad memory and would love to be able to rewatch good moments of my life. The part about all that data being in control of powerful corporations, though... that's what makes me thing that I'd prefer it to fail as well. I wish we could have this sort of tech outside of the fram…

I wonder if using less of memory-recall capabilities of the brain will lead to loss of other important capabilities. So, I worry if using too much tech crutches is going to be detrimental.

Shouldn't the first step be to find out if your speculation has merit before you start worrying about it?

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by AlecSchueler » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 7:43 AM UTC

cm2012 wrote: post #690

Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #684

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually I find the idea of recording everything (or maybe not everything, but seamlessly recording whenever I want) quite attractive. I have a bad memory and would love to be able to rewatch good moments of my life. The part about all that data being in control of powerful corporations, though... that's what makes me thing that I'd prefer it to fail as well. I wish we could have this sort of tech outside of the fram…

It's going to be awesome for amateur porn

For some definitions of awesome.

Amateur pornography already has huge issues with consent and age verification, and is also more and more being weaponised against women as revenge pornography.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by demarq » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 7:43 AM UTC

Finally someone understands. The glasses are the main point not the tech.

A lot of previous product design in this area, has emphasised on shouting the tech and making it super loud that these are "tech" glasses.

Here the tech is "inside" and the form and fit of the glasses takes priority.

This is a big Win for meta

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by Kiro » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 7:44 AM UTC

xarope wrote: post #695

The UX for the page is terrible, or else I'm too used to reading reference manuals. I can't figure out if the glasses can be used standalone, or need constant connection to a smart phone, nor battery life. Why? I actually think they might be quite useful for e.g. sports, where the athlete doesn't have a hand free for camera/smartphone.

I get stuck in an infinite cookie popup loop so I can't even see the page.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by AlecSchueler » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 7:45 AM UTC

mvkel wrote: post #679

I got a pair of the original Stories and they are my most favorite device released in the past decade except for the AirPods. Countless times I've wanted to capture something with my kids, or on a drive, or on a bike ride. I can just tap the button on my glasses and that's it. I'm not taken out of the moment at all. It's great. as for the other stuff, Bluetooth speaker included, I wish they would rip it all out.

Is there anything that makes it clear to the people around you that they are being recorded?

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by AlecSchueler » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 7:46 AM UTC

KaiserPro wrote: post #125

tpmx wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Subsidized by Meta for getting them more data? I would also imagine that Meta is paying them handsomely for the obvious brand risk here - getting Ray-Bans associated with glasshole behaviour. The Ray-Ban brand is owned by the Italian-French EssilorLuxottica conglomerate. Market cap 74B EUR. (Meta market cap: 770B USD.)

lol, facebook can barely get the glasses to play sound reliably, they aren't spying on you with these glasses.

They're a surveillance company, not an audio company.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by aubanel » Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 7:47 AM UTC

This page has an original way to force the user to accept cookies : present the cookie banner in a way that blocks the content. If the user clicks "Refuse optional cookies", just reload the page and present them the same choice again. That is illegal in the EU now.