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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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I was hoping for usb-c outputs vs miniHDMI (yeah, I know, they probably want to be compatible ith rpi4 cases, but still...)

Fyi

>Will my Raspberry Pi 5 fit my Raspberry Pi 4 case?

>Raspberry Pi 5 won't fit the Raspberry Pi 4 Case. We recommend the Raspberry Pi Case for Raspberry Pi 5, designed to help you get the most out of our newest computer.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#102

What is (or would be) the "Tsundoku" equivalent for Raspberry Pi? I started with Pi-Hole a few years back but ended up with a commercial paid DNS resolver. The timeline usually goes like this -- will stumble on another interesting video of Jeff Geerling, then spend the weekend tinkering with the Pi, keeps running, forget about it, found it to be not needed, plugs off and is lying around. [Tsundoku]( https://en.wikipe…

I think it should be "The art of buying single-board computers and never running them once". I think the "once" is needed in the case of computers. They are as machines not directly comparable to books...

A book, like any media, fulfilled its initial purpose after it has been "consumed" - anything else (looks nice, feels nice, smells nice) are physical, subjective qualities attached to it. You might even buy it solely for these physical qualities, but that's besides the point.

A machine has its purpose in its usage, and that usage requires known resources that should not be carelessly wasted. I personally buy them to enable a utility for myself and have fun discovering it. It fulfilled its initial purpose even if it was powered on just once.

Even those single-board computers that were put to "good use", as building blocks for new devices (eg. [0]), are still not in use the whole time.

[0]: https://www.creativeapplications.net/objects/paragraphica-co...

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#103
It's ARM with quad A76 cores. I was curious up until this announcement to see if they'd ever release a RISCV raspberry pi.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#104
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean with vague information? There is an entire blog post describing the product: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/

This is pretty bad: "Does Raspberry Pi 5 need active cooling? "Raspberry Pi 5 is faster and more powerful than prior-generation Raspberry Pis, and like most general-purpose computers, it will perform best with active cooling. The Raspberry Pi Case for Raspberry Pi 5, with its integrated fan, is one way to provide this." They pose a question themselves, and don't even answer it. Of course something will perform best w…

requiring cooling limits the use case. (remember, they've sold > 30 million of them)

I'm pretty sure what it means is that kids who use the pi on their desk don't need to spend on a cooler. It will probably throttle and run slower.

Meanwhile an adult using the pi could put on a cooler and wring lots of performance out of it.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#105
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is pretty bad: "Does Raspberry Pi 5 need active cooling? "Raspberry Pi 5 is faster and more powerful than prior-generation Raspberry Pis, and like most general-purpose computers, it will perform best with active cooling. The Raspberry Pi Case for Raspberry Pi 5, with its integrated fan, is one way to provide this." They pose a question themselves, and don't even answer it. Of course something will perform best w…

I think they answer your question in the PSU section “Raspberry Pi 5 consumes significantly less power, and runs significantly cooler, than Raspberry Pi 4 when running an identical workload.”

Not on the linked page.

"Will my Raspberry Pi 4 power supply work with Raspberry Pi 5?

"Raspberry Pi 5 is a higher-performance computer than Raspberry Pi 4, and you may have problems using an under-powered supply. We recommend a high-quality 5W 5A USB-C power supply, such as the new Raspberry Pi 27W USB-C Power Supply."

The question asks about power requirements, but the answer is about performance?

The first time I read that I thought the 5 needs more power than the 4, not less.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#106
So a Raspberry Pi 27W USB-C Power Supply and they also showing an active cooler. Seems like this thing is running even hotter than the previous version.

Btw am I the only one who hates to buy their power supply because the USB-C cable is not removable?

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#107
I hope they’ll reiterate the computer in keyboard form factor (pi 400). My son is 6 and is learning to read and the pi 400 looks like a perfect first computer.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#108

TBH the thing I hate most about this category of SBC is the reliance on SD cards. They are both too unreliable to trust and so slow that they often bottleneck the SBC. Buying them is often a crap shoot too, I've purchased cards batches of cards from the supposed reputable manufacturers that were all over the board when benchmarked, and rarely did they hit the claimed speed spec. I would love if there was an alternati…

This device has a PCIe 2.0 x1 connector now, so NVMe drives should be usable now. The Compute Module 4 series have been able to support eMMC chips, so I don't see why they wouldn't continue with the 5 if/when it shows up

> This device has a PCIe 2.0 x1 connector now, so NVMe drives should be usable now.

It's a fiddly FPC connector though, which isn't a great contributor to mechanical robustness.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#109
post #99
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is pretty bad: "Does Raspberry Pi 5 need active cooling? "Raspberry Pi 5 is faster and more powerful than prior-generation Raspberry Pis, and like most general-purpose computers, it will perform best with active cooling. The Raspberry Pi Case for Raspberry Pi 5, with its integrated fan, is one way to provide this." They pose a question themselves, and don't even answer it. Of course something will perform best w…

The answer is nuanced. It can run workloads somewhat faster and cooler than Pi 4 without active cooling. But it also can't reach close to its peak performance without active cooling.

Your answer is more direct and uses fewer words. Can you help them fix their product page?
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