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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#91

Post by wkat4242 »

isoprophlex wrote: post #6

I'm happy that they're upgrading the pi, but it's not exactly lightweight computing in terms of power (they recommend a 27W PSU) or performance/watt (see: your cell phone) To me the charm of the raspi ecosystem was always in giving you a very low power, "always on, almost no power draw" linux environment. Oh well, I guess there's always the older versions or the zero for that.

Yeah my intel atom NUCs run at 5W idle and 10W load and they're a ton faster than a pi 4. Probably a pi 5 too. It's not very impressive.

And that's with a real SSD.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#92

Post by wtcactus »

I've been trying for almost 1 year, to get a Pi 4 at MRSP and it's impossible due to production shortages, but they decided it was a good idea to thin even more the production lines with a different model.

Sincerely, it seems a very bad idea from their part.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#93

Post by joefarish »

iamtedd wrote: post #89
foggywin wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean with vague information? There is an entire blog post describing the product: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/

This is pretty bad: "Does Raspberry Pi 5 need active cooling? "Raspberry Pi 5 is faster and more powerful than prior-generation Raspberry Pis, and like most general-purpose computers, it will perform best with active cooling. The Raspberry Pi Case for Raspberry Pi 5, with its integrated fan, is one way to provide this." They pose a question themselves, and don't even answer it. Of course something will perform best w…

I think they answer your question in the PSU section “Raspberry Pi 5 consumes significantly less power, and runs significantly cooler, than Raspberry Pi 4 when running an identical workload.”

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#94

Post by ivolimmen »

Jaxan wrote: post #50
firemelt wrote: post #3

anyone could tell me how did you use raspberry pi?

I run Nextcloud on it, to backup and sync documents at home. I just bought a 128GB sd card instead of using external storage via usb.

The lifetime of an external USB drive is better than the SD card. My PINE64 after a few years stopped working due to the SD card giving up. It was a pain to recover my database from it but I did manage... that is why I am interested in this PI because of the PCI interface...

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#95

Post by ThatPlayer »

Only OpenGL ES is disappointing. ARM's Mali Panfrost drivers get full desktop OpenGL, so do Snapdragon GPUs. Hopefully they implement enough of Vulkan for Zink.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#98

Post by dragontamer »

joefarish wrote: post #93
iamtedd wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is pretty bad: "Does Raspberry Pi 5 need active cooling? "Raspberry Pi 5 is faster and more powerful than prior-generation Raspberry Pis, and like most general-purpose computers, it will perform best with active cooling. The Raspberry Pi Case for Raspberry Pi 5, with its integrated fan, is one way to provide this." They pose a question themselves, and don't even answer it. Of course something will perform best w…

I think they answer your question in the PSU section “Raspberry Pi 5 consumes significantly less power, and runs significantly cooler, than Raspberry Pi 4 when running an identical workload.”

That's not documentation of any reasonable level though.

An MPU designer expects to see something like "200mA draw from the 1.2V power-domain when running at 400 MHz" or "10mA draw from the 1.2V power-domain when in first level of sleep". (Maybe not this small since Rasp. Pi is a more powerful chip, but... you know... actual specifics).

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#99

Post by mlyle »

iamtedd wrote: post #89
foggywin wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean with vague information? There is an entire blog post describing the product: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/

This is pretty bad: "Does Raspberry Pi 5 need active cooling? "Raspberry Pi 5 is faster and more powerful than prior-generation Raspberry Pis, and like most general-purpose computers, it will perform best with active cooling. The Raspberry Pi Case for Raspberry Pi 5, with its integrated fan, is one way to provide this." They pose a question themselves, and don't even answer it. Of course something will perform best w…

The answer is nuanced. It can run workloads somewhat faster and cooler than Pi 4 without active cooling. But it also can't reach close to its peak performance without active cooling.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#100

Post by tpmx »

iamtedd wrote: post #89
foggywin wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean with vague information? There is an entire blog post describing the product: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/

This is pretty bad: "Does Raspberry Pi 5 need active cooling? "Raspberry Pi 5 is faster and more powerful than prior-generation Raspberry Pis, and like most general-purpose computers, it will perform best with active cooling. The Raspberry Pi Case for Raspberry Pi 5, with its integrated fan, is one way to provide this." They pose a question themselves, and don't even answer it. Of course something will perform best w…

"peak power consumption increases to around 12W, versus 8W for Raspberry Pi 4"

A beefy heatsink case should be able to handle that.

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