Kickstarter: rails.app

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Post by bretthopper » Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 9:06 PM UTC

Re: Kickstarter: rails.app

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Post by ovi256 » Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 9:24 PM UTC

As Rails founding fathers complained of Java frameworks bloat, today's micro-framework fans complain of Rails bloat. Quite a cycle we've come through, isn't it ?

Re: Kickstarter: rails.app

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Post by scottshea » Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 9:29 PM UTC

Slightly ironic since I just got a MacBook for my new job and am trying to get it set up for Rails development.

Re: Kickstarter: rails.app

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Post by kreutz » Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 9:31 PM UTC

scottshea wrote: post #3

Slightly ironic since I just got a MacBook for my new job and am trying to get it set up for Rails development.

https://github.com/thoughtbot/laptop

Re: Kickstarter: rails.app

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Post by wildster » Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 9:32 PM UTC

£25,000, how long would it take set up a repo so you could do go: sudo apt-get install rails-3.2 on Ubuntu/Debian?

Re: Kickstarter: rails.app

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Post by fieldforceapp » Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 9:33 PM UTC

How would this compare to say the BitNami RubyStack:

http://bitnami.org

Re: Kickstarter: rails.app

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Post by joshaidan » Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 9:33 PM UTC

I propose a different funding model for this project. Why not approach Rails hosting vendors like Heroku, Engine Yard, etc. to fund this project, in exchange for built-in one-click deployment to their hosting environment.

Would be a win-win for the user and hosting provider.

Re: Kickstarter: rails.app

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Post by tptacek » Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 9:36 PM UTC

I'm interested in whatever Yehuda Katz comes up with, but I've been a Rails dev at a Mac shop since 2007? and I have never been too frustrated by getting Rails running.

Does anyone here have specific problems? From my experience, it really has been a matter of "gem update --system; gem install rails".

Re: Kickstarter: rails.app

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Post by tptacek » Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 9:38 PM UTC

ovi256 wrote: post #2

As Rails founding fathers complained of Java frameworks bloat, today's micro-framework fans complain of Rails bloat. Quite a cycle we've come through, isn't it ?

He's not complaining about bloat. Unlike many other high-level languages, Ruby has several viable execution environments (MRI 1.8, MRI 1.9, Rubinius, and JRuby) and Rails works on all of them. OS X ships with a system Ruby. The result seems to be that some people have trouble getting the right combination of runtime and libraries running.

Re: Kickstarter: rails.app

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Post by bratsche » Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 9:39 PM UTC

wildster wrote: post #5

£25,000, how long would it take set up a repo so you could do go: sudo apt-get install rails-3.2 on Ubuntu/Debian?

Ubuntu has a rails package already, and nobody uses it. It only serves to confuse new users. Trying to mix deb and gem just hasn't worked well so far.

Making a Rails.app for Mac is different though, because everything would be isolated in your .app, while a .deb would install the files to the system and track them in the package management database, so trying to modify them outside of apt-get/dpkg just b0rks everything.