Kia, Hyundai recall over 3.3M vehicles for potential fire-related issues
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Re: Kia, Hyundai recall over 3.3M vehicles for potential fire-related issues
#2Ironic that their EVs aren't in the list, given all the drama a few years ago.
Re: Kia, Hyundai recall over 3.3M vehicles for potential fire-related issues
#3Ironic that their EVs aren't in the list, given all the drama a few years ago.
What drama about EVs? The last I recall is the whole we didn’t put immobilizers on our cars and they are incredibly easy to steal.
Or the guy I saw who went over 500k miles on his Kia…with something like 7 engines and 3 transmissions replaced.
Re: Kia, Hyundai recall over 3.3M vehicles for potential fire-related issues
#4Ironic that their EVs aren't in the list, given all the drama a few years ago.
What drama about EVs? The last I recall is the whole we didn’t put immobilizers on our cars and they are incredibly easy to steal. Or the guy I saw who went over 500k miles on his Kia…with something like 7 engines and 3 transmissions replaced.
That they catch fire. It’s a reoccurring myth.
Re: Kia, Hyundai recall over 3.3M vehicles for potential fire-related issues
#5Does this include these models outside of the US?
Re: Kia, Hyundai recall over 3.3M vehicles for potential fire-related issues
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
What drama about EVs? The last I recall is the whole we didn’t put immobilizers on our cars and they are incredibly easy to steal. Or the guy I saw who went over 500k miles on his Kia…with something like 7 engines and 3 transmissions replaced.
That they catch fire. It’s a reoccurring myth.
FWIW, it's not a myth that "EV's catch fire", the myth is that they catch fire at a higher rate than ICE powered cars. But OTOH, what also isn't a myth is that when (some)[1] EV's do catch fire, they tend to be harder fires to extinguish (eg, it takes a lot more water and time to cool them sufficiently to avoid spontaneous re-ignition), compared to ICE cars. So there is sort-of a legit "thing" about EV's and fire.
[1]: I'm thinking of Tesla's in particular. And this is not speculation, in the official Tesla emergency response guide they discuss how much water/time is required to fully extinguish a Tesla fire. And as a former firefighter, I can say with no qualms that those numbers are higher than that of a traditional ICE powered car (assuming we're not talking about a large cargo truck, fuel tanker, or some other extraordinary case). Not sure to what extent EV's from other manufacturers share this same characteristic.
Re: Kia, Hyundai recall over 3.3M vehicles for potential fire-related issues
#7Ironic that their EVs aren't in the list, given all the drama a few years ago.
The drama was not indicative of any real world issue.
EVs have a fire rate of something like 25/100,000. ICE cars have a fire rate of something like 2500/100,000.
Re: Kia, Hyundai recall over 3.3M vehicles for potential fire-related issues
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
That they catch fire. It’s a reoccurring myth.
FWIW, it's not a myth that "EV's catch fire", the myth is that they catch fire at a higher rate than ICE powered cars. But OTOH, what also isn't a myth is that when (some)[1] EV's do catch fire, they tend to be harder fires to extinguish (eg, it takes a lot more water and time to cool them sufficiently to avoid spontaneous re-ignition), compared to ICE cars. So there is sort-of a legit "thing" about EV's and fire. [1…
It’s 25/100000 vs 2500/100000. And most EVs on the road are Teslas. The EV fire issue has always been a rounding error, even if the work was 10x per fire. The resources to put out fires are dramatically more needed for ICE vehicles, even on a per vehicle basis.
People just wanted something to get angry about. As always.
Re: Kia, Hyundai recall over 3.3M vehicles for potential fire-related issues
#9What the hell is wrong with Hyundai and Kia? It seems like every few months there's another recall about something. Fires, airbags, breaks, "unanticipated acceleration", exploding seatbelts, it's endless. At what point does it become cheaper to just give people new cars.