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Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#31

Curious to know what advantages Insomnia has/had over Postman beyond being MIT licensed. Postman's initial startup time could be a bit faster but other than this I'm not missing much (yet). I used it for years occasionally before finally creating an account not so long to sync my requests across devices. BTW: Jetbrains IDEs like WebStorm also have an integrated HTTP client.

Ignoring everything else, postman UX is worse than anything I've ever used

Postman and Insomnia have almost identical UIs

Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#32
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what alternatives exist? I literally just switched to insomnia due to postman doing this so I'm a bit stuck now. Do I go back to fiddler?

Not exactly the same, but I switched from Insomnia to Hurl. https://hurl.dev/

this is interesting, thank you

Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#33

Restfox [1] has a similar UI to insomnia and works well. Not affiliated with Restfox [1] https://github.com/flawiddsouza/Restfox

+1 for restfox. moved from insomnia a few weeks ago. the UI could do with some polish but it's great other than that. plus it even has tabs, and can run in only a browser

Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#35
Marco here, CTO at Kong (the parent company of Insomnia). You will see some of my replies in the GitHub issue where this conversation is taking place.

I want to clarify a couple of things:

1) Insomnia can still be used locally in any version prior to this one. The data is there, and can be used.

2) Insomnia still has a local-only mode (Scratch Pad) that doesn't require any account, that anybody can use. A collection can be imported into Scratch Pad for API debugging purposes.

3) There is an onboarding step that clearly states what's going to happen and that allows the user to export the data. We also don't migrate any data until an account is created.

4) Data is not migrated in the cloud when collaborating with Git Sync, which is a capability that allows us to use Git as the source of truth. It is also not migrated without creating an account.

5) When migrating to the cloud, data is fully end-to-end encrypted (E2EE). That is the case for free accounts as well, not only premium plans.

6) Any organization that is serious about security can get in touch with Kong to pass the security compliance assessment and use the cloud like they most likely do with any other vendor.

7) We will even further improve clarity with a new minor version (8.1) that makes all of the above more clear (how to export/import etc).

What's not seen in that conversation, is the large number of users that wanted a product that allowed them to collaborate better, without losing their data, and sync that data securely across multiple clients. Which is why we tried to strike a balance between convenience and feature-richness (cloud) but still provide a local option for other users (Scratch Pad).

I can assure you that we didn't wake up one day and choose violence :) Ultimately, I am also perfectly aware that we can't make everybody happy.

Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#36

This is the first I’ve ever heard of Insomnia. Here’s missing context that a blog post about this could have included, to save everyone paging through yet another GitHub issue FP. Insomnia 8.0.0-rc1 was released today: https://insomnia.rest/changelog The business that ships this codebase is migrating all instances from cloud-optional to cloud-required: > The challenge is that we cannot continue to offer a great produ…

Even worse, before you could use it without an account. Now it locks you out of your data after the update. You need to create an account to get back your data.

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Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#37
Literally just ruined my day. Needed to run one quick query that I had saved and opened insomnia to that stupid login screen and empty scratch pad. Even for folks who had automatic updates on, this should have come with some kind of warning. So poorly handled. Boo.

Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#38
post #35

Marco here, CTO at Kong (the parent company of Insomnia). You will see some of my replies in the GitHub issue where this conversation is taking place. I want to clarify a couple of things: 1) Insomnia can still be used locally in any version prior to this one. The data is there, and can be used. 2) Insomnia still has a local-only mode (Scratch Pad) that doesn't require any account, that anybody can use. A collection…

Bro, why is the migrate step behind a signup? How is that not hostile to users? I will make sure my company never buys anything Kong. You have to know you are selling to devs.

Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#39
post #35

Marco here, CTO at Kong (the parent company of Insomnia). You will see some of my replies in the GitHub issue where this conversation is taking place. I want to clarify a couple of things: 1) Insomnia can still be used locally in any version prior to this one. The data is there, and can be used. 2) Insomnia still has a local-only mode (Scratch Pad) that doesn't require any account, that anybody can use. A collection…

Bro, why is the migrate step behind a signup? How is that not hostile to users? I will make sure my company never buys anything Kong. You have to know you are selling to devs.

The export is before the signup. Nothing gets migrated without a signup.

But not making it easier to understand what was happening was an oversight, and we will make it more clear in v8.1 (as soon as this week). So 8.0 will be a 2-day release in this regard.

You can also download any previous version of Insomnia and export from there. Without an account, the data never leaves your computer either way.

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