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Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by justinclift »

capableweb wrote: post #306
OJFord wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair the second sentence in the short top description is about staying connected with calls and messages . I don't think many people's first assumption (without any other context/knowing more) would be that that means having them read out.

The full quote is: > Stay connected with hands-free calls and messages and listen to your favourite tracks through built-in speakers. Which makes it seem pretty clear they're talking about stuff you can do because of the speakers. Then later: > No more stopping to answer your phone. Also, make calls and send messages on WhatsApp, Messenger and SMS, completely hands-free – simply by using your voice.

> Which makes it seem pretty clear they're talking about stuff you can do because of the speakers.

That's true. But it's not excluding display stuff.

It's along the lines of some product having multiple features, and some marketing point only talking about the advantages of the first feature. People would expect further marketing points to address the other features, and/or not even realise they'd not seen the other ("assumed to be present") features mentioned later on.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by bentcorner »

jprd wrote: post #433

The company that delivers an ability for me to just randomly capture video/pictures "in the moment" has my VR/AR/Glass-hole vote from Day One. My kids will (and I approve, to be honest) REFUSE to repeat what they just did for the camera, and if they see it out, will sometimes shutdown whatever AMAZING thing they just re-invented. The supercomputer taking "T3h B3st P1ctur3 Ev@R" in my pocket cannot solve that problem,…

On one hand it's creepy, on the other being able to "DVR" unique events is going to fill YouTube with some pretty wild videos.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by dmd »

Terr_ wrote: post #366
Hextinium wrote: post #348

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This is on some android phones, double tapping power will open the camera. I use it all the time to take pictures of information that I don't want to write down, package numbers, measurements, error logs, all just tap tap, point, volume down.

> information that I don't want to write down I occasionally use it that way for painted labels on parking-spaces at the airport. (I have yet to need them, but it seems a reasonable precaution given how even a small amount of floor/zone/row forgetfulness could leave me wandering the 10,000-spot complex.) That said, I also find myself wishing I could mark those photos as "temporary", so that they get auto-deleted with…

Easy! At least on iphone, photos you delete are saved in the trash for 30 days. So - take the photo, and immediately delete it.

Assuming you're not parking for more than a month, your photo will be in the trash if you need it, and will be automatically deleted if you don't!

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by justinclift »

makeitdouble wrote: post #412
gorjusborg wrote: post #223

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> Why glasses? I’ve paid a lot of money not to have to wear glasses. Because it's the only socially acceptable way to point a camera at people without tipping them off. That's one reason google glass didn't take off as well. When you show up at the party waving your camera around on record, people tend to find a way to distance themselves.

It means that either this line of product will ruin glasses (false positives of people assuming your thick frame glasses are a hidden camera) either people really aren't tipped off and we'll have a moral panic about private footages overflowing in the media. I see a future in smart glasses, in particular for notifications, but they absolutely need to tip off people when the camera is pointed at them.

> they absolutely need to tip off people when the camera is pointed at them.

Which is already "too late", as most of the time the person will be recorded before they've noticed it.

Not sure there's a perfect solution to the problem though, as it's the intersection of several concurrent conflicting requirements. :/

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by seabass-labrax »

presentation wrote: post #449
seabass-labrax wrote: post #427

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Luxottica is probably doing very nicely on this partnership, and may well be offering Apple a substantial price cut to compensate. I had never heard of 'Rayban' before this Apple announcement! (Not that I am the target market for sunglasses anyway, in dark and wet Great Britain)

It’s only probably the most famous sunglasses brand in human history

Sunglasses aren't a particularly good investment when there will only be a couple of weeks bright enough to want them :) But awareness of raincoat brands in Britain, now you're talking!

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by Robdel12 »

scrumper wrote: post #425
jperras wrote: post #277

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> Imagine if you could take a picture of anything, add a little note, have it filed away. Not necessarily an awesome Instagram picture, but just a picture of some mail you got, a tool you are putting away, any thing you want to record and save. Heck, why not a picture of your computer screen? Pair that with quickly available audio transcriptions and you can also dictate anything, thoughts, small notes, information as…

I am currently in the middle of rebuilding a pair of 6.2L small block Chevrolet engines. By a factor of six these are the largest engines I've ever worked on, and the rebuild is far more extensive than anything I've attempted before too. During the teardown, part of my process (let's not dignify it with "workflow") has been photographing the incredible amount of crap that's been bolted to the engines as I remove piec…

Take comfort in one thing: you’re rebuilding one of the most popular and prolific platforms for hot rodders in the last 20 years. You can probably throw a rock and hit someone who can legitimately help you, haha.

Rebuilding a junkyard ls (okay yours isn’t a 5.3 ) is like the rite of passage

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by mempko »

alex_young wrote: post #221

The 4 hour battery life will probably save us for a bit, but do you really want to walk around in a world where a bunch of strangers are taking pictures of you just by looking in your direction? I don’t. Who cares about the LED.

Security cameras are everywhere. You are always being watched.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by ProllyInfamous »

standardUser wrote: post #120
ProllyInfamous wrote: post #52

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"For sunglass creeps to capture more long-term memories." —Some Rayban Executive, probably.

I wonder how much the acknowledged the creep factor internally, or if they just kind of danced around it. But it must be their target demographic.

Meanwhile: Apple's internal teams already acknowledge this... by showing [digitally, with outward-facing LCDs] the wearer's "eyes" whenever they are able to see [and where they're looking, approximately?].

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by pj_mukh »

makeitdouble wrote: post #396
pj_mukh wrote: post #299

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I have the near opposite experience especially having attempted to build the mobile based product you mentioned [ https://placenote.com/ ] The seamlessness of glasses is really what makes this even possible, especially now that voice is becoming a seamless interface. I largely like my phone to remain in my pocket (especially when I’m with my impressionable kids) and bringing it out and unlocking, getting my brain to…

As a glass wearer I am slightly concerned about the weight: that can't be comfortqble for full day wearing, day in day out. You probably would have a regular pair of glasses, or no glasses for most of the time, and only wear those when you specifically want the smart features, which makes the seamlessness only occasional. Would you optimize a workflow for something you only wear from times to times ?

Absolutely not. The application in mind only works when smart glasses and prescription/sunglasses are the same.

This is not today, but no doubt where Meta’s (and Apple’s) major engineering effort is getting pushed into.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by seventytwo »

api_or_ipa wrote: post #70

Pricing is interesting. $299 for the Wayfarer model when the base Wayfarer goes for $171 on the Rayban website. If (and this is a big if) you assume Luxottica takes the same cut on both models, then Meta is selling a camera, headphones, etc, conveniently packaged into a very small form-factor for $128. If I were in the market for a new pair of sunglasses, it isn't hard to seem me splurging another $128 for something…

I bet these smart glasses have basically zero profit margin, or even negative.

The real value to be made here is to get facebook’s data vacuum into a new aspect of our lives.

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