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Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by CommitSyn »

sterlind wrote: post #269
CommitSyn wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine that while you're driving, a big line of text that you can't see through appears on your windshield. Worse yet the text is opaque but you have to concentrate on it to read it. All this would do is give drivers a false sense of security in your directions example. You'll be concentrating on the text regardless, meaning your concentration is off the road. Even that autopilot sense where you drive your daily rou…

HUDs like this are already common on fighter jets, and even some passenger aircraft, precisely so you don't have to look away to check gauges. Are you saying riding a motorcycle requires more concentration than flying an FA/18 Hornet?

In the jets, are all parts of the HUD always visible and they train to work around them as if it weren't part of the window but rather a permanent obstruction, or does the text pop up unexpectedly while they're flying?

> Are you saying riding a motorcycle requires more concentration than flying an FA/18 Hornet?

Are you saying that building strawmen is more important than the visibility of an FA/18 Hornet?

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by dkonofalski »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #380
hotnfresh wrote: post #352

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People used to feel all kinds of ways about what is now normal smartphone use. There are probably a lot of remnants of those attitudes in ‘00s media that can still be found. Everyone either got over it or shut up about it because they (ahem, we) had clearly lost. I expect actually-useful smart glasses will eventually overcome the same stigma. Actually-useful being the key part of that.

Strong disagree. I think there is still a fairly large cohort of people who feel that e.g. looking at your phone at dinner, or responding to every random ding from your phone during a conversation, is rude and unacceptable behavior.

As someone in that cohort, the number of people that feel the same way as me is nearly non-existent. The only people that seem to share the sentiment are my parents and my older colleagues. I have an Apple Watch primarily to avoid having to take my phone out while still being able to see important notifications (I love the focus mode stuff) so I'm not some kind of anti-tech ideologue either. Most other people are not only used to phones being out and around but the vast majority have no qualms about it.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by hinkley »

smeej wrote: post #346
hinkley wrote: post #165

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These days, at least if you can afford designer, they use rare earth magnets and the frames are exactly the same shape. Since most glasses only grind the back side of the lens, they fit pretty closely together. Which is also why you wouldn't be able to reverse the position of the lenses without changing how they're ground (also thick lenses hidden behind the frame conceal just how bad your eyes are, which some people…

You're missing the point. Corrective lenses have thickness. For the frames that use magnets to add a sunglass layer, they only work because it can go on the outside, with the lens already set in the frame at the right distance from the eyes/lashes. It just wouldn't work in reverse, to take a sunglass lens at the right distance and snap something in behind it. You'd get oily lash streaks all over the corrective layer…

No man. Look.

Take a pair of glasses. Attach sunglasses to them. Move the bows from the glasses to the sunglasses. The geometry of the glasses or frames don’t matter, it’s whether there’s enough distance from the eye.

My glasses have almost always sat proud of the frames. And there’s plenty of distance behind them. (I’ve had sunglasses that brush my eyelashes though, when I was young and they were cheap, and that bugs the hell out of me).

> If that's not enough, there's a whole industry of people designing eyewear; you really think "What if you just added the corrective part inside the tinted part?" wouldn't have been done if it were viable?

First of all, that's an Appeal to Authority, and you know where you can stick that. Two, you think I'm trying to solve a very old problem, which means you missed the point.

Putting something on your face that vastly outsizes and outcosts your glasses is a brand new problem.

Scientists get eyepieces for microscopes with prescription lenses. That's not on your face. Skiers just buy goggles with prescription lenses, which cost almost as much as VR goggles. That's basically a luxury market, not a consumer market.

Also the whole fuckin' point is that none of these solutions (to people insisting you take your glasses off) work because a rounding error of people are going to carry two pair of glasses with them, and even the workaround is unwieldy. You're lost in the weeds talking about the physics of it, which aren't a problem and aren't the real problem.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by tapvt »

> Imagine if you could take a picture of anything, add a little note, have it filed away.

I'd use that regularly while working on my truck. It'd be a lot easier than stopping during every disassembly step to snap a picture with my phone.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by [deleted] »

jprd wrote: post #433

The company that delivers an ability for me to just randomly capture video/pictures "in the moment" has my VR/AR/Glass-hole vote from Day One. My kids will (and I approve, to be honest) REFUSE to repeat what they just did for the camera, and if they see it out, will sometimes shutdown whatever AMAZING thing they just re-invented. The supercomputer taking "T3h B3st P1ctur3 Ev@R" in my pocket cannot solve that problem,…

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Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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ctippett wrote: post #265

[*] Home surveillance cam — Check [*] Car dash cam — Check [*] Bike helmet cam — Check [*] Drone follow cam — Check [ ] Face cam Those of us in the FreeCam community have been dreaming of something like this for a long time.

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Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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toddmorey wrote: post #302
ianbicking wrote: post #259

These could be pretty incredible if the platform was more open. You get highly available image and voice input, and good voice output. Imagine if you could take a picture of anything, add a little note, have it filed away. Not necessarily an awesome Instagram picture, but just a picture of some mail you got, a tool you are putting away, any thing you want to record and save. Heck, why not a picture of your computer s…

I would be so uncomfortable having lunch with someone wearing these. Am I alone in that?

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Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by somsak2 »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #374
Gh0stRAT wrote: post #356

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I mean, the light makes it VERY apparent when it's recording or taking a picture. Would you be just as uncomfortable eating lunch with someone who had their phone in their hand? It'd be much easier to surreptitiously record/photograph someone with a phone because they have no status indicator when they're recording and people inadvertently point phone lenses at each other all the time.

> Would you be just as uncomfortable eating lunch with someone who had their phone in their hand? the entire time? of course - and I'd question my decision to invite them unless they're sharing their screen with everyone (showing pics, etc) or taking a group pic, having their phone out and pointed at you for more than a few moments would be both uncomfortable and rude

if you place a phone face-down and have the macro lens recording, you could pretty easily see both people at a table.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by justinclift »

4ndrewl wrote: post #27

Good news for those who don't want to be caught on camera "The Capture LED lets others know when you're capturing content or going live. If the LED is covered, you'll be notified to clear it." So that's nice.

By the time you've seen that led, it likely far too late. :(

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by justinclift »

sp3000 wrote: post #8

Any good argument that anyone can think of for a scenario where smart eyewear will not be as ubiquitous as smart phones eventually? I understand the privacy argument, but that is not going to be enough. The ability to think or blink in a certain way and capture anything you see is too powerful a tool, alongside the augmented reality that is coming.

> I understand the privacy argument, but that is not going to be enough.

Why not? Privacy is important to people.

For a long time, the majority of people didn't really seem to care about their online privacy. However, the EU still created the GDPR.

Perhaps a "real world privacy" equivalent of GDPR should happen at some point?

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