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Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by Groxx »

nadavami wrote: post #321
lopkeny12ko wrote: post #273

> If the LED is covered, you’ll be notified to clear it. How does this work?

I would guess there is photocell next to the LED and comparing the amount of light to the ambient light the cameras get. They might also be doing something clever and using the LED itself as a photo diode.

I wish I could find more things talking about this, but there's this classic demo of the technique: https://cs.nyu.edu/~jhan/ledtouch/index.html

It has always felt under-utilized to me. Maybe it needs power-sensing hardware that's too sensitive / too fast for most scenarios / costs?

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by joemi »

boarnoah wrote: post #249
gruturo wrote: post #106

These things lack a display. I don't want cameras strapped to my head, I want a lightweight display I can wear unobtrusively and doesn't make anyone near me nervous (doubly so since this is from a company known for invading privacy), even if it's a fairly low resolution one. Version 1 could even be 4 lines of text and I'd still pay for it - I already wear glasses every waking moment of my life anyway. Pair it with my…

It is extremely bizarre to advertise with typical Mixed Reality use cases (with display elements overlaid in your field of vision). Is this actually true or do the people here who say "it lacks a display" mean something else? That it's not suitable for VR or non overlay applications?

Look at the Product Tour part of the page. Zero mention of a display = no display.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by hightrix »

toddmorey wrote: post #302
ianbicking wrote: post #259

These could be pretty incredible if the platform was more open. You get highly available image and voice input, and good voice output. Imagine if you could take a picture of anything, add a little note, have it filed away. Not necessarily an awesome Instagram picture, but just a picture of some mail you got, a tool you are putting away, any thing you want to record and save. Heck, why not a picture of your computer s…

I would be so uncomfortable having lunch with someone wearing these. Am I alone in that?

Not at all. In fact, I would ask someone wearing this to not only remove them from their face but also place them in a backpack/bag.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by [deleted] »

lm28469 wrote: post #288
api_or_ipa wrote: post #70

Pricing is interesting. $299 for the Wayfarer model when the base Wayfarer goes for $171 on the Rayban website. If (and this is a big if) you assume Luxottica takes the same cut on both models, then Meta is selling a camera, headphones, etc, conveniently packaged into a very small form-factor for $128. If I were in the market for a new pair of sunglasses, it isn't hard to seem me splurging another $128 for something…

For me, and probably a lot of people, it's the opposite, I'd pay more if needed to get the non tech version

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Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by stickfigure »

PlunderBunny wrote: post #308
sp3000 wrote: post #8

Any good argument that anyone can think of for a scenario where smart eyewear will not be as ubiquitous as smart phones eventually? I understand the privacy argument, but that is not going to be enough. The ability to think or blink in a certain way and capture anything you see is too powerful a tool, alongside the augmented reality that is coming.

David Brin's 'Earth' novel (which feels very prescient in some ways) has elderly people wearing sunglasses that continuously capture live video which is monitored by (private?) security companies. If I recall correctly, in the novel this effectively eliminates street-crime.

We already do this with dashcams; when the form factor allows, I expect it'll be just as common for walking. For mostly the same reasons. It might actually improve city street life.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by smeej »

hinkley wrote: post #165
smeej wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the sunglasses sit a normal distance from the face, most people's corrective lenses won't fit behind them. There's a reason over-glasses sunglasses are so big and clunky and ugly.

These days, at least if you can afford designer, they use rare earth magnets and the frames are exactly the same shape. Since most glasses only grind the back side of the lens, they fit pretty closely together. Which is also why you wouldn't be able to reverse the position of the lenses without changing how they're ground (also thick lenses hidden behind the frame conceal just how bad your eyes are, which some people…

You're missing the point. Corrective lenses have thickness. For the frames that use magnets to add a sunglass layer, they only work because it can go on the outside, with the lens already set in the frame at the right distance from the eyes/lashes. It just wouldn't work in reverse, to take a sunglass lens at the right distance and snap something in behind it. You'd get oily lash streaks all over the corrective layer constantly.

It's even worse if you wear really thick glasses, because sometimes they even have to sit slightly proud of the frame in the front.

Your solution just isn't viable for this problem, as any longtime glasses wearer could easily tell you.

If that's not enough, there's a whole industry of people designing eyewear; you really think "What if you just added the corrective part inside the tinted part?" wouldn't have been done if it were viable?

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

trey-jones wrote: post #97
4ndrewl wrote: post #27

Good news for those who don't want to be caught on camera "The Capture LED lets others know when you're capturing content or going live. If the LED is covered, you'll be notified to clear it." So that's nice.

The jailbreak will be out tomorrow.

Black nail polish is out today

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by Hextinium »

jperras wrote: post #307
pj_mukh wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the near opposite experience especially having attempted to build the mobile based product you mentioned [ https://placenote.com/ ] The seamlessness of glasses is really what makes this even possible, especially now that voice is becoming a seamless interface. I largely like my phone to remain in my pocket (especially when I’m with my impressionable kids) and bringing it out and unlocking, getting my brain to…

The cognitive load of the notifications is an interesting point that I hadn't considered; I can see myself being distracted by those in the workflow I proposed in my previous comment. I wonder if much of this could be solved by OS-level functionality (or at least having it in a developer-accessible SDK) that allows the new "always-on" lock screens to immediately trigger an application on a single tap.

This is on some android phones, double tapping power will open the camera. I use it all the time to take pictures of information that I don't want to write down, package numbers, measurements, error logs, all just tap tap, point, volume down.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by knodi123 »

> The Capture LED lets others know when you’re capturing content or going live. If the LED is covered, you’ll be notified to clear it.

Wonder how that works. Maybe the capture LED has a light sensor next to it that detects reflections? It solves an interesting problem, although the prevalence of cheap spy camera glasses on amazon make it an uphill battle.

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