Live data from Hacker News

DAWproject: Open exchange format for DAWs

github.com

11–20 of 93 posts

Re: DAWproject: Open exchange format for DAWs

#14
post #2

Nice idea, but not useful unless each DAW manufacturer supports the format. And there are a lot of DAWs.

MIDI was enthusiastically supported by Yamaha and Roland, two of the biggest synth players of that era.

So I imagine, for it to become widely successful, that this new standard would need the wholehearted support of at least 2 of Steinberg, Apple, Ableton, and Avid.

Re: DAWproject: Open exchange format for DAWs

#16
One thing I'd like to see is native support for some notion of pitch other than 12-tone equal temperament.

Looking at their example, I see this:

...which looks like it's basically just a representation of the underlying midi.

One way they could represent other pitches is for "key" to allow a floating point value rather than an integer. So, for instance, 65.5 would be a quarter-tone (50 cents) above note 65.

According to their reference document, "key" is currently required to be an integer:

https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/bitwig/daw...

There's other ways to support microtuning. They could apply a tuning table to the midi notes, for instance. (Ideally they should support more than the 128 notes that midi supports, because 128 isn't enough for some use cases.) They might also allow you to apply pitch bend to individual notes (which isn't allowed in midi 1.0 but was added to 2.0).

Re: DAWproject: Open exchange format for DAWs

#17
post #16

One thing I'd like to see is native support for some notion of pitch other than 12-tone equal temperament. Looking at their example, I see this: ...which looks like it's basically just a representation of the underlying midi. One way they could represent other pitches is for "key" to allow a floating point value rather than an integer. So, for instance, 65.5 would be a quarter-tone (50 cents) above note 65. According…

At this layer of note information, fact is the data will be either sent to a MIDI device or a plugin as a MIDI event, so you might as well keep it in the native format and not convert to a frequency.

Re: DAWproject: Open exchange format for DAWs

#18
post #11

It would be nice if Bitwig would support existing plug-ins formats like AU.

Do you encounter many AU-only plugins? From what I can tell, the limitations of VST/AU/AAX are more pressing and Bitwig are working to address that with CLAP: https://u-he.com/community/clap.

Re: DAWproject: Open exchange format for DAWs

#19
If the goal is widespread industry adoption, I'd recommend the approach of extending a professional, standards-based interchange format already supported by major DAWs: AAF.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Authoring_Format

https://www.loc.gov/preservation/digital/formats/fdd/fdd0000...

Re: DAWproject: Open exchange format for DAWs

#20

If the goal is widespread industry adoption, I'd recommend the approach of extending a professional, standards-based interchange format already supported by major DAWs: AAF. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Authoring_Format https://www.loc.gov/preservation/digital/formats/fdd/fdd0000...

The README extensively references AAF.
Post reply on HN