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Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by Gud »

addicted wrote: post #79
sp3000 wrote: post #8

Any good argument that anyone can think of for a scenario where smart eyewear will not be as ubiquitous as smart phones eventually? I understand the privacy argument, but that is not going to be enough. The ability to think or blink in a certain way and capture anything you see is too powerful a tool, alongside the augmented reality that is coming.

That same ability might lead people to ban people wearing smart glasses from participating. If we were having a party, we’d almost certainly not allow people to keep their smart glasses on because the complete lack of friction would mean certain individuals who are decently in the public eye would have to basically spend the whole evening just making sure there’s not even a suggestion of a still picture capturing som…

Thanks a lot for this viewpoint. This type of surveillance tech is extremely scary to me. I have no doubt a big enough minority will want to embrace it, without a moments thought to what the people around them might feel like.

But it's very comforting that in many places they will be outright banned. I will do my best to get them forbidden in as many places as I can.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by Gud »

nickthegreek wrote: post #172
pzo wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try taking your phone out and start recording when talking to some random people on the street or in shop at cash register, or when talking to policeman etc. and see if none of them will start getting very annoyed or even aggressive - even if it's not (maybe) illegal people won't like it.

People are allowed to be annoyed. If you punch someone, or break/steal their property for recording, there are actual LEGAL consequences that could befall you. People record others all the time, there is this whole Karen phenomenon that is kinda hard not to know about..

There is a big difference between actively choosing to film, showing you are filming someone and a passive camera always on. The first one can be easily avoided, the second one not so much.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by throw7 »

gruturo wrote: post #106

These things lack a display. I don't want cameras strapped to my head, I want a lightweight display I can wear unobtrusively and doesn't make anyone near me nervous (doubly so since this is from a company known for invading privacy), even if it's a fairly low resolution one. Version 1 could even be 4 lines of text and I'd still pay for it - I already wear glasses every waking moment of my life anyway. Pair it with my…

This is more simstim a'la neuromancer than robocop.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by expertentipp »

ginkgotree wrote: post #116

No way would I keep a camera on my head that is directly uploading image (and audio?) data to a Meta owned and operated platform. No. F*&(king. Way.

If they'll figure out one "wow how convenient" killer feature or killer app, everyone will be wearing it within 2 years.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by dotancohen »

somethoughts wrote: post #177
ajhurliman wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that’s just not what the product is. It’s not targeted at helping people navigate roads, it’s for giving creators a more seamless way of getting footage in their everyday life. Meta spent a crazy amount of money hosting a giant party at VidCon (a YouTube/TikTok/Instagram focused convention) and I haven’t really seen them pushing these glasses anywhere else. Casey Neistat did a review on the first-gen version in…

Interesting - this is pretty insightful in terms of product market fit. It seems more of a convenient GoPro POV camera form factor that allows more freedom from extra equipment (sunglasses versus some sort of helmet strap/chest strap) and less pre-planning. I could also see some sort of application where the creator is live-streaming a concert or event to Instagram reels and getting feed back via the headphones from…

  > I could also see some sort of application where the creator is live-streaming a concert or event
Or police encounter.

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by esafak »

nickthegreek wrote: post #172
pzo wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try taking your phone out and start recording when talking to some random people on the street or in shop at cash register, or when talking to policeman etc. and see if none of them will start getting very annoyed or even aggressive - even if it's not (maybe) illegal people won't like it.

People are allowed to be annoyed. If you punch someone, or break/steal their property for recording, there are actual LEGAL consequences that could befall you. People record others all the time, there is this whole Karen phenomenon that is kinda hard not to know about..

People should not be recording others all the time. It is not consensual. This is the crux of the debate. The legality is debated, and it varies by jurisdiction: https://www.notta.ai/en/blog/is-it-illegal-to-record-someone...

Don't squander your right to record in public on something as mundane and personal as a civilian minding his own business. Record a crime, at least. Otherwise the law may change and you may lose that "right".

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by pzo »

nickthegreek wrote: post #172
pzo wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try taking your phone out and start recording when talking to some random people on the street or in shop at cash register, or when talking to policeman etc. and see if none of them will start getting very annoyed or even aggressive - even if it's not (maybe) illegal people won't like it.

People are allowed to be annoyed. If you punch someone, or break/steal their property for recording, there are actual LEGAL consequences that could befall you. People record others all the time, there is this whole Karen phenomenon that is kinda hard not to know about..

I didn't mean that this is ok to punch someone. My point is it will annoy a lot of people and some will eventually punch you. There are many legal things that if you do you are just asking yourself for a problem.

I also think in some countries it might be illegal to record someone either video or audio without explicitly telling or asking for permission. Even at the airport (at least in many I have been) it was not allowed to do video recording

Re: Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses

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Post by ajhurliman »

vidarh wrote: post #168
ajhurliman wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that’s just not what the product is. It’s not targeted at helping people navigate roads, it’s for giving creators a more seamless way of getting footage in their everyday life. Meta spent a crazy amount of money hosting a giant party at VidCon (a YouTube/TikTok/Instagram focused convention) and I haven’t really seen them pushing these glasses anywhere else. Casey Neistat did a review on the first-gen version in…

"Spy cameras" like these have been available cheaply for years. The only thing new here is the Ray-Ban brand connection.

Well, the integration into social media is novel too. When I did a demo I signed into my account and when I filmed something it went directly as a post to my IG.

If there were more ability to do more editing and get access to the raw footage that would be helpful; I haven’t tested this version though so I don’t know what it does/doesn’t offer.

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